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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

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    Veep Debate Violations

    Biden exaggerated when he said House Republicans cut funding for embassy security by $300 million. The amount approved for fiscal year 2012 was $264 million less than requested, and covers construction and maintenance, not just security.

    Biden’s Libya Claims

    Biden claimed that Ryan “cut embassy security in his budget $300 million below what we asked for.” That’s an exaggeration. The fiscal year 2012 funding was $264 million less than the administration had requested, and the funding isn’t only for security. It covers construction and maintenance as well.


    Biden: Number one, the — this lecture on embassy security — the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for, number one.

    The Obama administration requested $1.801 billion for embassy security, construction and maintenance for the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, according to The Hill newspaper. And House Republicans came back with a proposal to cut spending to $1.425 billion. Ultimately, the Republican-controlled House agreed to increase funding to $1.537 billion after negotiations with the Senate.

    Biden also claimed that the administration wasn’t aware of security concerns among U.S. officials in Libya before the attack on the consulate in Benghazi that killed four Americans. The vice president said: “[W]e weren’t told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security again.”

    We can’t say whether requests for more security — which were denied — reached the top. But American officials who worked in Libya over the summer placed the blame on a deputy assistant secretary of state — not top administration officials — when testifying before Congress this week.

    Eric Nordstrom, the top regional security officer in Libya over the summer, said: “All of us at post were in sync that we wanted these resources.”

    Andrew Wood, a Utah National Guardsman who was leading a security team, testified: ”We felt great frustration that those requests were ignored or just never met.”

    They placed the blame squarely on Charlene Lamb, deputy assistant secretary of state for international programs, according to Foreign Policy magazine.....snip~

    FactCheck.org : Veep Debate Violations

    CNN Fact Check: What about the security in Benghazi?

    Statement:

    Biden: "The congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for."

    The facts:

    According to Democratic House Oversight Committee staff, the amount that the GOP-led House passed for two accounts that pay for embassy security in fiscal 2012 ($2.311 billion) was $330 million less than the Obama administration had requested ($2.641 billion).

    A GOP House Appropriations Committee aide confirmed the House bill had less in these accounts than what the administration requested.

    However, the final bill, after being worked on by the Democratic-led Senate, put in more money than what had passed in the House. The final bill, which passed with bipartisan support, gave a total of $2.37 billion to these accounts for fiscal 2012 -- about $270 million less than what the administration had requested.

    Conclusion: The GOP-led House did initially approve about $330 million less than what the administration requested, but in the final bill, passed with bipartisan support after adjustments by the Senate, put the amount a little closer to the administration's target.

    Complete coverage of CNN's Fact Checks


    Course you already knew this from the same pieces I have up in 4 different threads and now this one.
    Yeah right a Democratic Senate that faced Republicans who will use a Filibuster whenever they want.

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I don't see Ltc Wood risking his career, was he OIC during the attack, his complete letter doesn't say in any detail, just he was at one time OIC in Tripoli and twice went to Benghazi, very briefly.

    Contrary to your post the Marine Security Guard(Guess the MSD is a new or muddled term) isn't assigned to an Ambassador nor is primary mission to guard/protect a person. The detachment, usually 4 to 5 men with a SNCO in charge, is assigned to an Embassy and it's charge is the secret communications, codes and transmitting equipt. in the Embassy. The MSG is detailed to the RSO, not the Ambassador.

    Your source is saying the Special Forces trained the terrorists that killed their comrades??? I know the right wing needs to throw everything it can against the wall to see if anything will stick, but that charge seems flaky even for them.
    Yeah, I know you got lost at the State Dept's own Site..... Especially on their own security report. When you figure that part out about Ansar al Sharia being part of the Militia. That they cannot be mistaken due to the logos on their vehicles. Then get back with me.

    I know you thought just because it was a Conservative Live Radio Site.....that they wouldnt reference their sources. But then that State link and those docs given to the oversight committee kinda shows where your at.

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Yeah right a Democratic Senate that faced Republicans who will use a Filibuster whenever they want.
    Uhm note an Appropriations Bill Signed by the President.....do you think he actually read it.....or just smiled for the Photo op with his Pen in his left hand?

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Yeah right a Democratic Senate that faced Republicans who will use a Filibuster whenever they want.
    And wallah, ah one and ah two, the goosestep just keeps going. In another thread http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...ook-bad-2.html , when I pointed out to you:
    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    Ah looky, the "conspiracy" to make Obama "look bad" just keeps growing despite all the damming facts that are coming down like an avalanche on his administration. This op/ed says so!
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    Your brilliant reply was:
    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Those damning facts are?
    To which I pointed out:
    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    The ones you keep ignoring in dozens of threads day in and day out? The ones you keep sticking your virtual fingers in your virtual ears and saying NANANANANANA I CAN'T HEAR YOU as you stamp your feet about? That would be several hundred post now, but I like how you have no clue about any of it. You could replace Carney with that level of command of material you have spent weeks reading and arguing about, never once meeting a fact you could not dodge duck run dismiss or hide from. But boony for you for finding this latest op/ed addition to the conspiracy to make Obama look bad. As if he needed any help in that department whatsoever.
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    And here you are, your idea of an intelligent reply to the same information MMC has shown you in four different threads is? Ignore, dodge duck and run from it all. Every day of the week. But not before you fling this snappy and utterly asinine idiocy of brain fart.
    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Yeah right a Democratic Senate that faced Republicans who will use a Filibuster whenever they want.
    A mind really is a terrible thing to waste.

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Looks like a distinction without a difference.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    And wallah, ah one and ah two, the goosestep just keeps going. In another thread http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...ook-bad-2.html , when I pointed out to you:


    Your brilliant reply was:


    To which I pointed out:


    And here you are, your idea of an intelligent reply to the same information MMC has shown you in four different threads is? Ignore, dodge duck and run from it all. Every day of the week. But not before you fling this snappy and utterly asinine idiocy of brain fart.


    A mind really is a terrible thing to waste.
    Yeah, trying to say the Fact Checkers is wrong.....is a bit redundant.

    But it is not surprising.

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Turns out the press got played again by Republicans. Jake Tapper has the smoking gun of the original email from the Obama administration which differs significantly from the “leaked emails” ABC ran with.

    In an exclusive for CNN, Tapper reveals that CNN has the original email sent by a top Obama aide, regarding the administration’s reaction to the Benghazi attacks. Tapper reported, “The actual email differs from how sources characterized it to two different media organizations.”

    “The actual email from then-Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications Ben Rhodes appears to show thath womever (sic) leaked it did so in a way that made it appear that the White House primarily concerned with the State Department’s desire to remove references and warnings about specific terrorist groups so as to not bring criticism to the department,” Tapper concludes (my bold).

    The email was sent on Friday, September 14, 2012, at 9:34 p.m. and was obtained by CNN from a U.S. government source. Ironically, the email points out that there is a “ton of wrong information” coming from Congress and people who are not particularly informed (waving hello to Congressional Republicans and Mitt Romney):

    “There is a ton of wrong information getting out into the public domain from Congress and people who are not particularly informed. Insofar as we have firmed up assessments that don’t compromise intel or the investigation, we need to have the capability to correct the record, as there are significant policy and messaging ramifications that would flow from a hardened mis-impression.

    “We can take this up tomorrow morning at deputies.”

    Read the full email here.

    Tapper notes how ABC and the Weekly Standard covered the leaked emails, which were “paraphrased” “inaccurately” and “inventing the notion” that the White House tried to protect the State Department:

    Whoever provided those quotes and paraphrases did so inaccurately, seemingly inventing the notion that Rhodes wanted the concerns of the State Department specifically addressed. Nuland, particularly, had expressed a desire to remove mentions of specific terrorist groups and CIA warnings about the increasingly dangerous assignment. Rhodes put no emphasis at all in his email on the State Department’s concerns.

    Previous reporting also misquoted Rhodes as saying the group would work through the talking points at the deputies meeting on Saturday, September 15, when the talking points to Congress were finalized. While the previously written subject line of the email mentions talking points, Rhodes only addresses misinformation in a general sense.

    Tapper condemned the leaker as having the agenda to make the White House look like they were protecting the State Department.

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Out.

    Be well.

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Out.

    Be well.
    Til Next Time Lady Polgara.

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    And wallah, ah one and ah two, the goosestep just keeps going. In another thread http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...ook-bad-2.html , when I pointed out to you:


    Your brilliant reply was:


    To which I pointed out:

    NOTHING BUT INSULTS

    And here you are, your idea of an intelligent reply to the same information MMC has shown you in four different threads is? Ignore, dodge duck and run from it all. Every day of the week. But not before you fling this snappy and utterly asinine idiocy of brain fart.


    A mind really is a terrible thing to waste.
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