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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    See ... now you're just going through the motions and it shows.
    Now it sounds like you're talking about Issa as another one of his witch hunts fails. Indeed backfires.

    How's that Fast and Furious thingie working out for ya?

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Ain't that how it always goes? Amazing.
    Like Boxer & Reid tried running that "Republicans cut security spending for Benghazi" line today in order to give the gang something to repeat.
    And they do.
    That's the real crime that needs to be investigated: how the tea part occupation forces in Congress cut the budget to the military. And now are criticizing our brave soldiers for not bumbling into Benghazi. Shame on the GOP and its ugly lies.

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Veep Debate Violations

    Biden exaggerated when he said House Republicans cut funding for embassy security by $300 million. The amount approved for fiscal year 2012 was $264 million less than requested, and covers construction and maintenance, not just security.

    Biden’s Libya Claims

    Biden claimed that Ryan “cut embassy security in his budget $300 million below what we asked for.” That’s an exaggeration. The fiscal year 2012 funding was $264 million less than the administration had requested, and the funding isn’t only for security. It covers construction and maintenance as well.


    Biden: Number one, the — this lecture on embassy security — the congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for, number one.

    The Obama administration requested $1.801 billion for embassy security, construction and maintenance for the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, according to The Hill newspaper. And House Republicans came back with a proposal to cut spending to $1.425 billion. Ultimately, the Republican-controlled House agreed to increase funding to $1.537 billion after negotiations with the Senate.

    Biden also claimed that the administration wasn’t aware of security concerns among U.S. officials in Libya before the attack on the consulate in Benghazi that killed four Americans. The vice president said: “[W]e weren’t told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security again.”

    We can’t say whether requests for more security — which were denied — reached the top. But American officials who worked in Libya over the summer placed the blame on a deputy assistant secretary of state — not top administration officials — when testifying before Congress this week.

    Eric Nordstrom, the top regional security officer in Libya over the summer, said: “All of us at post were in sync that we wanted these resources.”

    Andrew Wood, a Utah National Guardsman who was leading a security team, testified: ”We felt great frustration that those requests were ignored or just never met.”

    They placed the blame squarely on Charlene Lamb, deputy assistant secretary of state for international programs, according to Foreign Policy magazine.....snip~

    FactCheck.org : Veep Debate Violations

    CNN Fact Check: What about the security in Benghazi?

    Statement:

    Biden: "The congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for."

    The facts:

    According to Democratic House Oversight Committee staff, the amount that the GOP-led House passed for two accounts that pay for embassy security in fiscal 2012 ($2.311 billion) was $330 million less than the Obama administration had requested ($2.641 billion).

    A GOP House Appropriations Committee aide confirmed the House bill had less in these accounts than what the administration requested.

    However, the final bill, after being worked on by the Democratic-led Senate, put in more money than what had passed in the House. The final bill, which passed with bipartisan support, gave a total of $2.37 billion to these accounts for fiscal 2012 -- about $270 million less than what the administration had requested.

    Conclusion: The GOP-led House did initially approve about $330 million less than what the administration requested, but in the final bill, passed with bipartisan support after adjustments by the Senate, put the amount a little closer to the administration's target.

    Complete coverage of CNN's Fact Checks


    Course you already knew this from the same pieces I have up in 4 different threads and now this one.

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    You're flailing about wildly now.
    Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.

    On Wednesday morning, CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien asked the Utah Republican if he had "voted to cut the funding for embassy security."

    "Absolutely," Chaffetz said. "Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have…15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, a private army there, for President Obama, in Baghdad. And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces. When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices. You have to prioritize things.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1954912.html

    Is that better?

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.

    On Wednesday morning, CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien asked the Utah Republican if he had "voted to cut the funding for embassy security."

    "Absolutely," Chaffetz said. "Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have…15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, a private army there, for President Obama, in Baghdad. And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces. When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices. You have to prioritize things.”

    Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

    Is that better?
    Note the links about.....Fact Checkers. Note that part about what the Senate did and then Obama Signing the bill. Then Note that bipartisan bit.

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.

    On Wednesday morning, CNN anchor Soledad O'Brien asked the Utah Republican if he had "voted to cut the funding for embassy security."

    "Absolutely," Chaffetz said. "Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have…15,000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, a private army there, for President Obama, in Baghdad. And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces. When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices. You have to prioritize things.”

    Jason Chaffetz Admits House GOP Cut Funding For Embassy Security: 'You Have To Prioritize Things'

    Is that better?
    OUCH! Another rightwing talking point bites the dust.

    Shame on Tea Party Occupied congress for cutting security to our embassies. Double shame for blaming Clinton for their own irresponsibility.

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Note the links about.....Fact Checkers. Note that part about what the Senate did and then Obama Signing the bill. Then Note that bipartisan bit.
    Translated: you've lost another argument and your rightwing meme is fading, fading, fading.

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Translated: you've lost another argument and your rightwing meme is fading, fading, fading.
    Translation......you can't get past the fact Checkers that validate the truth. That discern whether what was being told was a lie and or false and true.. Looks like you still can't tell that difference. Don't worry.....it will set in slowly.

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Translation......you can't get past the fact Checkers that validate the truth. That discern whether what was being told was a lie and or false and true.. Looks like you still can't tell that difference. Don't worry.....it will set in slowly.
    So you're calling GOP rep Jason Chaffetz a liar? But he's from Utah!

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    re: Benghazi Bombshell: Leaked Emails Were Edited to Make Obama Look Bad [W:58]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Do you think the Lt Col Understands about Stand Down Orders? Especially for orders from higher command. Any reason why the Col would sacrifice his Military Career just to make Obama look bad? Do you think after he has gone thru the Military Protocols that he will be coming out as a Whistle-Blower. Once they get past what Team Obama terms Classified Information?



    Lt. Col Wood was the commander in charge of the American security teams in Libya & he testified: “I feel duty bound to come forward in order to inform and provide a portion of ground truth information. I feel a sense of honor for those individuals who have died in the service of their country. I realize much of my work in Libya was entangled in sensitive government work... The killing of a US Ambassador is a rare and extraordinary thing and requires our attention as a people. As a citizen I made the determination that this outweighs all other interests and will risk whatever circumstances may result from my testimony.”The two would go onto expose a shocking revelation. The United States of America not only denied additional security to directly protect Ambassador Stevens (a Marine Security Detachment - MSD - is typically assigned to every Ambassador stationed abroad), but taxpayers also paid (or 'back-filled' per Lamb's testimony) Ansar al Sharia and relied on US Special Forces to train them.....snip~

    U.S. State Dept FUNDED & TRAINED Benghazi Terrorist, Ansar al Sharia
    I don't see Ltc Wood risking his career, was he OIC during the attack, his complete letter doesn't say in any detail, just he was at one time OIC in Tripoli and twice went to Benghazi, very briefly.

    Contrary to your post the Marine Security Guard(Guess the MSD is a new or muddled term) isn't assigned to an Ambassador nor is primary mission to guard/protect a person. The detachment, usually 4 to 5 men with a SNCO in charge, is assigned to an Embassy and it's charge is the secret communications, codes and transmitting equipt. in the Embassy. The MSG is detailed to the RSO, not the Ambassador.

    Your source is saying the Special Forces trained the terrorists that killed their comrades??? I know the right wing needs to throw everything it can against the wall to see if anything will stick, but that charge seems flaky even for them.

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