Page 4 of 5 FirstFirst ... 2345 LastLast
Results 31 to 40 of 49

Thread: Drunk ASU student left at hospital with Post-it note

  1. #31
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Drunk ASU student left at hospital with Post-it note

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    As a former fraternity President, I laugh at your defense of the Greek system as a whole. There are a lot of bad seeds out there.
    And they aren't limited to the Greek system. The Greek system doesn't even have enhanced problems, they on whole are under such staunch scrutiny that they have to perform well above the general student body. So they even have slightly suppressed demographic breakdown from nominal undergrad behavior. Yet no one gets on the GDI's when they have house parties that end up like some of the fraternity parties.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  2. #32
    Sage
    Fisher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Last Seen
    12-06-13 @ 02:44 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    17,002

    Re: Drunk ASU student left at hospital with Post-it note

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And they aren't limited to the Greek system. The Greek system doesn't even have enhanced problems, they on whole are under such staunch scrutiny that they have to perform well above the general student body. So they even have slightly suppressed demographic breakdown from nominal undergrad behavior. Yet no one gets on the GDI's when they have house parties that end up like some of the fraternity parties.
    Perhaps, or perhaps it just doesn't get reported as often because it doesn't feed into the stereotype. Greeks as a whole are under such scrutiny for a reason. I am not unsympathetic though. There is a war against pledging regardless of what pledging consists of; there is a war against hazing in which some universities consider even making a pledge wear a pledge pin is hazing; and there is the general war against Greeks. Unfortunately my fraternity's national office is every bit as bad as Universities on some of this stuff because they have become so risk adverse because insurance has become such a massive burden on the organizations. It does not help that in this climate, people who do not like the Greek experience or who feel that they have to make the least little bit of effort or actually have to pay some money file hazing claims and pretend to be a victim. I really think the whole system is going to collapse.

  3. #33
    Global Moderator
    Moderator
    Helix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:11 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    37,064

    Re: Drunk ASU student left at hospital with Post-it note

    this is why states are passing immunity laws for underaged kids who take their drunk friends to the hospital. at least the friends did that much. when states prosecute teens for taking their buddy to the hospital, buddies end up dead instead of at the hospital. happens all of the time, and i can think of several cases in my area.

  4. #34
    Outer space potato man

    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:20 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    51,716

    Re: Drunk ASU student left at hospital with Post-it note

    .40% is life-threatening so at least they brought him to a hospital.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

  5. #35
    Farts in Elevators
    OscarB63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Alabama
    Last Seen
    09-06-14 @ 07:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    26,526

    Re: Drunk ASU student left at hospital with Post-it note

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    .40% is life-threatening so at least they brought him to a hospital.
    .40 is a light weight. In my career as an MP, I've seen people blow as high as 0.6 we had a guy walk up to the back gate at Ft Benning one night with a BAC of 0.47 the only way we could tell he had been drinking was because we could smell it.
    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

    An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.

  6. #36
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Drunk ASU student left at hospital with Post-it note

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Perhaps, or perhaps it just doesn't get reported as often because it doesn't feed into the stereotype. Greeks as a whole are under such scrutiny for a reason. I am not unsympathetic though. There is a war against pledging regardless of what pledging consists of; there is a war against hazing in which some universities consider even making a pledge wear a pledge pin is hazing; and there is the general war against Greeks. Unfortunately my fraternity's national office is every bit as bad as Universities on some of this stuff because they have become so risk adverse because insurance has become such a massive burden on the organizations. It does not help that in this climate, people who do not like the Greek experience or who feel that they have to make the least little bit of effort or actually have to pay some money file hazing claims and pretend to be a victim. I really think the whole system is going to collapse.
    Yet sports teams do it all the time and it's not nearly as advertised or sought after. Sports clubs even more so. Hell the Rugby House was right across the street from my Fraternity House, I've seen what those guys do. Hilarious...but there's no regard for the line. Yet they'd never get in trouble for it less something high profile occurred. At my old University many years back, the Lacrosse team killed one of their new members through a hazing event focusing around drinking. The Lacrosse team suffered minimal consequences and the State bore down on the Greek system and issued essentially greek specific punishments for hazing.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  7. #37
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Drunk ASU student left at hospital with Post-it note

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    .40 is a light weight. In my career as an MP, I've seen people blow as high as 0.6 we had a guy walk up to the back gate at Ft Benning one night with a BAC of 0.47 the only way we could tell he had been drinking was because we could smell it.
    That is a sign of significant liver damage.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  8. #38
    Sage
    sangha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Lower Hudson Valley, NY
    Last Seen
    09-17-17 @ 05:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    59,990

    Re: Drunk ASU student left at hospital with Post-it note

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's already done. Remember Samantha Spady? What these kids did was actually above and beyond what is normally done, and they got their friend to the hospital. Now if this trend continues it will have designated drivers and controlled, reasoned drinking.
    In this case, the fact that they brought this kid to the hospital demonstrates an awareness that they thought his health was in danger. In the Spady case, she was left to sleep it off. There was no evidence that anyone thought she was in danger.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

  9. #39
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Drunk ASU student left at hospital with Post-it note

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    In this case, the fact that they brought this kid to the hospital demonstrates an awareness that they thought his health was in danger. In the Spady case, she was left to sleep it off. There was no evidence that anyone thought she was in danger.
    Yeah, that's the claim alright. But the point is here they at least were able to get the kid to the hospital, even if they didn't stay and face possible prosecution from law or school.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  10. #40
    Sage
    Fisher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Last Seen
    12-06-13 @ 02:44 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    17,002

    Re: Drunk ASU student left at hospital with Post-it note

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yet sports teams do it all the time and it's not nearly as advertised or sought after. Sports clubs even more so. Hell the Rugby House was right across the street from my Fraternity House, I've seen what those guys do. Hilarious...but there's no regard for the line. Yet they'd never get in trouble for it less something high profile occurred. At my old University many years back, the Lacrosse team killed one of their new members through a hazing event focusing around drinking. The Lacrosse team suffered minimal consequences and the State bore down on the Greek system and issued essentially greek specific punishments for hazing.
    I played Rugby. I know. I agree. The alcohol consumption at those things would make a fraternity keg party seem like a church social in comparison. I never made it back to the house after a match not soaked all the way to my underwear in beer.

Page 4 of 5 FirstFirst ... 2345 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •