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    Re: BREAKING: Obama Justice Department Secretly Monitored AP Reporters' Phone Records

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    He called Obama a mother ****er twice and had him in the outfit of the Star Trek villain, I'd say he went beyond the comedic bounds. He was actually visibly disappointed.

    This is why I don't like the people giving the government more power, even if you think your guy would never use/abuse that power someone else might. I doubt any punishment will come of this, or any rollback of warrantless surveillance powers.

    EDIT: I've been watching CNN and MSNBC all morning and not a peep about it. Just crap about Prince Harry and Angelina Jolie. Too bad they don't have Michael Jackson to distract us anymore.

    That is not true. I watch MSNBC every morning and they have been hammering the Obama admin all morning about the IRS and Benghazi. Those stories are by far the hottest news right now.

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    Re: BREAKING: Obama Justice Department Secretly Monitored AP Reporters' Phone Records

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Yea, if this really happened I do think it is outrageous. But why would the Obama administration be soo stupid?
    You mean why would government officials let power go to their heads, think they are above the constitution, and try to abuse their power? That isn't self explanatory?
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    No, I mean it is almost too stupid to be believealbe. I dont buy the dictator Obama schtick the right puts out.
    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    You mean why would government officials let power go to their heads, think they are above the constitution, and try to abuse their power? That isn't self explanatory?
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    Re: BREAKING: Obama Justice Department Secretly Monitored AP Reporters' Phone Records

    I'm not a fan of this occuring period but weren't these records pulled when Republicans were calling for a Special Investigation of the leaks? Weren't they claiming they were leaks by the Obama administration to make him look tough on terror?

    This is a great example of why ignoring the rightwing yell machine is good advice. You do acts like this to appease them then it's some massive government over reach.

    This is one thing I'd like to ask...which Conservatives is ready to step forth and pass legislation that this should be illegal? That national defense isn't a good enough excuse to wire tap and go through emails?
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    Re: BREAKING: Obama Justice Department Secretly Monitored AP Reporters' Phone Records

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I'm not a fan of this occuring period but weren't these records pulled when Republicans were calling for a Special Investigation of the leaks? Weren't they claiming they were leaks by the Obama administration to make him look tough on terror?
    So the Republicans in calling for 'a special investigation of the leaks' justifies the Obama administration infringing the first amendment? Kinda weird they would use the GOP to legitimize an action when their standard meme is to deride them.

    This is a great example of why ignoring the rightwing yell machine is good advice. You do acts like this to appease them then it's some massive government over reach.
    But the leftwing yell machine is on full blast on this topic...? Should we ignore them equally in this case?

    This is one thing I'd like to ask...which Conservatives is ready to step forth and pass legislation that this should be illegal? That national defense isn't a good enough excuse to wire tap and go through emails?
    GWB let that horse out of the barn. I doubt there is any will on either side to address this.
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    Re: BREAKING: Obama Justice Department Secretly Monitored AP Reporters' Phone Records

    I would definitely prefer a press with much stronger rights to privacy and protection.

    As to this specific situation, I'd like to know things like "why did they do this?" or "did they have a warrant?" Important things like that. But if this ends up being used to target informants that have spoken to the AP, it will be completely unacceptable.
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    Re: BREAKING: Obama Justice Department Secretly Monitored AP Reporters' Phone Records

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Good information. I'd read that as well. It's interesting that they're worried about that one operative. In Benghazi, all the files were stolen -- giving the terrorists the names of all of the operatives working with us in Libya. I'd guess most of them have been killed....?
    Heya Maggie.....Yeah Notice it also Points out the Two Journalists that were the ones that did the Pulitzer Prize Winning Story on how the NY COPS targeted Muslims too. Wonder how Think Progress is doing with Huff PO over the Piece. I don't mind If Think Progress believes they can take on Huff-PO. Same Deal with Media Matters.

    I am sure Arianna isn't worried in the Slightest.

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    Re: BREAKING: Obama Justice Department Secretly Monitored AP Reporters' Phone Records

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    No, I mean it is almost too stupid to be believealbe. I dont buy the dictator Obama schtick the right puts out.
    Heya Mak. So How are you doing with that Huff-Po piece? Do you buy their Schtick?

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    Re: BREAKING: Obama Justice Department Secretly Monitored AP Reporters' Phone Records

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    That is not true. I watch MSNBC every morning and they have been hammering the Obama admin all morning about the IRS and Benghazi. Those stories are by far the hottest news right now.
    You are correct.....even On Friday MSNBC was even talking about the "I" word. All of a sudden it was Obama was Spying on the AP. Then they were like.....wait a minute. He might have us too. Then all of a Sudden it became a big deal.

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    Re: BREAKING: Obama Justice Department Secretly Monitored AP Reporters' Phone Records

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    So the Republicans in calling for 'a special investigation of the leaks' justifies the Obama administration infringing the first amendment? Kinda weird they would use the GOP to legitimize an action when their standard meme is to deride them.
    Not sure if it's legitimization as much as a pretty convincing case that this is just partisanship rather than anything meaningful. Some slap on the wrist for the President and no repeal or changing of the Patriot Act and no change of view regarding individuals that leak sensitive information. Basically the individuals claiming this is "Watergate"...and honestly the louder someone yells Watergate is a pretty clear indication that it's nothing like Watergate....are the one's that gave the office the power to do this as well as the justification.

    But the leftwing yell machine is on full blast on this topic...? Should we ignore them equally in this case
    I'm not sure if it's the leftwing yell machine as much as establishment beltway media sources. You know...those same folks that published everything passed on by the Bush Administration as fact in the lead up to Iraq. Now they are clutching their pearls and falling on their fainting couches over this gross attack on the fourth estate...as if they haven't abandoned that a long time ago.

    GWB let that horse out of the barn. I doubt there is any will on either side to address this.
    which is a shame...and why it's hypocritical for conservatives to bemoan the use of it now or liberals to bemoan the use of it by any future Republican administration.

    Overall...this is my whole problem with this situation...those that passed it and those that should of done a better job informing the public of additional powers granted to the executive branch are now those *shocked* when those powers are used. I don't have very much respect for Obama on a lot of issues because he's basically Bush but I sure as **** don't have any respect those that cheerleaded and passed the origional document when this is exactly why people warned against it.

    So...it's that whole reap what you sow. He didn't do anything illegal...because of the patriot Act. A slap on the hand and some ultra partisan media frenzy is just bull**** that ignores the true issue in this whole escapade.
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