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    Re: Jason Richwine Resigns From Heritage Foundation After Dissertation Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Try breaking it down by whether the college degrees are in areas that involve real world activities, such as business or engineering, or the sort of degrees proudly held by people who have EBT cards.
    Somebody's moving the goal posts and asking for irrelevant information, what would that have to do with your erroneous claim that Democrats appeal to low IQ voters? Facts are facts, buddy. Low education voters go overwhelmingly for Republican. Whereas educated voters tend to vote Democrat. You got anything to add?
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    Re: Jason Richwine Resigns From Heritage Foundation After Dissertation Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Somebody's moving the goal posts and asking for irrelevant information, what would that have to do with your erroneous claim that Democrats appeal to low IQ voters? Facts are facts, buddy. Low education voters go overwhelmingly for Republican. Whereas educated voters tend to vote Democrat. You got anything to add?


    No, I'm not "moving the goal posts." I just think that it's important that we acknowledge that college degrees have little correlation to IQ's, far less to actual intelligence.

    The point I made earlier, and which you failed to grasp, referred to IQ, not to college degrees.
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    Re: Jason Richwine Resigns From Heritage Foundation After Dissertation Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Why take a test. His own party says he is a low IQ moron, and I am pretty cool with agreeing with his own supporters about his lacking intelligence. It is Bipartisan agreement.
    I would agree that Hispanic Republicans appear to have a lower IQ. Is that what you mean?

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    Re: Jason Richwine Resigns From Heritage Foundation After Dissertation Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    No, I'm not "moving the goal posts." I just think that it's important that we acknowledge that college degrees have little correlation to IQ's, far less to actual intelligence.

    The point I made earlier, and which you failed to grasp, referred to IQ, not to college degrees.



    I think that this individual is a perfect reflection of today's "in your face conservative"................Why he resigned escapes me...................

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    Re: Jason Richwine Resigns From Heritage Foundation After Dissertation Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    I think that this individual is a perfect reflection of today's "in your face conservative"................Why he resigned escapes me...................
    It really isn't Conservatism that get's in the weak-chinned face of the Left, it's Reality that does that sooner or later. Conservatism is fueled by the shattering of illusions.
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    Re: Jason Richwine Resigns From Heritage Foundation After Dissertation Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    It really isn't Conservatism that get's in the weak-chinned face of the Left, it's Reality that does that sooner or later. Conservatism is fueled by the shattering of illusions.


    There's lots of illusions plenty of Conservatives live in. I guess, by your logic, they too should be completely shattered........................

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    Re: Jason Richwine Resigns From Heritage Foundation After Dissertation Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Somebody's moving the goal posts and asking for irrelevant information, what would that have to do with your erroneous claim that Democrats appeal to low IQ voters? Facts are facts, buddy. Low education voters go overwhelmingly for Republican. Whereas educated voters tend to vote Democrat. You got anything to add?
    you really have to beware going there. there is intelligence and there is memorization. Most college degree work is memorization. Intelligent people do less memorization because they have a cognitive understanding of the world which is actual intelligence. A person who memorizes has little understanding of how the world works, and we need those people less and less because we have computers to do that job. At higher levels of college you get more intelligent people, but for anything masters and under you can pretty much get there with a complete lack of understanding and just knowing how to regurgitate the things you memorized.

    It is just wrong with associating college degrees with intelligence since most people who get them really do not have intelligence. IQ, though flawed, at least attempts to test cognitive reasoning and understanding rather than pure memorization. IQ is often not used often to evaluate students for college.

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    Re: Jason Richwine Resigns From Heritage Foundation After Dissertation Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    It really isn't Conservatism that get's in the weak-chinned face of the Left, it's Reality that does that sooner or later. Conservatism is fueled by the shattering of illusions.
    It depends on what you are talking about. If you are talking about moderns republican faux news conservativism it is all about creating an illusion and then trying to pretend the rest of the world is a lie. If you are talking about some fiscal conservative ideas they have their place, but they often do not shatter illusions as much as deal with responsibilities. I guess if you have the illusion you can borrow forever and never pay then that might tell you otherwise, but that is not a part of modern rep/conservative views as they will borrow way over their eyeballs if it is for causes like wars, stomping on anything not christian, keeping people from having fun, and forcing our education system to adopt religious fantasy as science. Neo-cons have pissed a lot of resources away on those things, and they have gone well beyond their means to do so.

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    Re: Jason Richwine Resigns From Heritage Foundation After Dissertation Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So a resignation isn't good enough for you? Maybe you'd like to have him killed? Would that work for you?
    I would imagine most Democrats would like to see him named RNC Chair.
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    Re: Jason Richwine Resigns From Heritage Foundation After Dissertation Controversy

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    you really have to beware going there. there is intelligence and there is memorization. Most college degree work is memorization. Intelligent people do less memorization because they have a cognitive understanding of the world which is actual intelligence. A person who memorizes has little understanding of how the world works, and we need those people less and less because we have computers to do that job. At higher levels of college you get more intelligent people, but for anything masters and under you can pretty much get there with a complete lack of understanding and just knowing how to regurgitate the things you memorized.

    It is just wrong with associating college degrees with intelligence since most people who get them really do not have intelligence. IQ, though flawed, at least attempts to test cognitive reasoning and understanding rather than pure memorization. IQ is often not used often to evaluate students for college.
    That is convenient since there is no polling data that is cross-referenced with IQ scores. But lets just take you at your word and compare 4 year degrees and post grad degrees.

    In the 2008 Presidential election, the liberal won among 4 year degree graduates by 54 to 46, among folks with post-graduate degrees, Masters and higher, those whom you called "more intelligent", the liberal beat be conservative by 58 to 40. 58 to 40 is getting lose to the margin of the liberal vote margin among Hispanics.

    It looks to me like the smarter people get, or at least the more educated people get, the less likely they are to vote conservative.

    Fascinating.

    So what were you saying?
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    I do not believe any amount of people committing suicide with firearms justifies requiring firearm sellers to preach to customers about suicide regardless if it would or wouldn't save those who commit suicide.

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