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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    My main problem with Teresa was that she cared more about experiencing human suffering than relieving it -- as she felt it brought her closer to God. She went so far as to refuse pain medication to the terminally ill in her hospices. Ultimately, she was an unstable woman who should have been given the appropriate medical treatment, rather than being paraded around by the Catholic Church.

    I wouldn't call her evil, just misguided.
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    I love how the libtards keep bleating on about this and yet not a word ever mentioned about "the chosen one" being AWOL during the attack in Benghazi
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    Re: Jimmy Carter Named Most Trusted U.S. Politician in New Poll.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I agree. A great person, just a bad president.
    If you judge a President in the way we normally do so, yes, he was a terrible President. However, if you look objectively at what he did, it could be argued he may have been the best President in modern history.

    I would point to one decision he made that may have been the difference between America following Japan into a period of perpetual stagnation, the decision to appoint Paul Volcker as Fed Chairman. Not only was this decision the opposite of partisan, it was also political suicide. Volcker was not going to put wallpaper over the American economic problems looking for a short term improvement that could make Carter look good enough for his '80 election. He was going to make things look a lot worse in the short run to burn out the stagflation recession and Carter supported this, knowing it was not going to help him politically.

    Volcker's monetary policies worked beautifully, although too late for Carter to get the credit he deserved, instead, credit going to Ronald Reagan and tax cuts for the recovery.

    So not only was he honest, not only was he selfless, not only was intelligent (in the real way, not politically), but his honesty, selflessness, and intelligence gave him the presence to make a decision that defied his own ideology and created the environment for the growth we have enjoyed for most of the time since 1980.

    The only downside, which he cannot be blamed for, is the mistaken notion that supply-side economics had anything to do with the growth made possible by Volcker's policies.

    On a personal note, I voted for Ronald Reagan and believed Carter was a terrible President at the time and I believed that Supply-side economics was the reason for our economic growth. It wasn't until I took the time to really research the history that I realized I was wrong. Sorry Jimbo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Regardless of what you think of him as a president, he embodies some of the best qualities of humanity. Of course, you need to take off your rancid partisan hat to see it.
    Had we followed Carter's plan, we be independent of foreign oil by now, and the middle class would be earning high salaries instead of losing wealth as the rich get richer by milking the cow to death.

    Carter was replaced by Reaganism, a plan to convince the middle class to support the greedy rich and throw labor under the bus.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter Named Most Trusted U.S. Politician in New Poll.....

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I love how the libtards keep bleating on about this and yet not a word ever mentioned about "the chosen one" being AWOL during the attack in Benghazi
    Benghazi = 9/11???

    Yeah, ok.

    And where was Bush during the numerous attacks and murders of our diplomats?

    Considering he was on vacation 32% of his Presidency and we had 10 Embassy and Consulate Attacks under his watch with 60 deaths, a little math would indicate that he was likely on vacation for 3 Embassy attacks and 20 deaths.

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    I was never outraged by the Embassy attacks under Bush, I was saddened and proud of these people who risked their lives, and ultimately gave their lives to represent the United States in very dangerous places, and to politicize their deaths would have been to demean their service. If Chris Stevens had survived and become a potential Democratic candidate, Republicans would be blaming him for the deaths in Benghazi.

    Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?
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    Re: Jimmy Carter Named Most Trusted U.S. Politician in New Poll.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    Benghazi = 9/11???

    Yeah, ok.

    And where was Bush during the numerous attacks and murders of our diplomats?

    Considering he was on vacation 32% of his Presidency and we had 10 Embassy and Consulate Attacks under his watch with 60 deaths, a little math would indicate that he was likely on vacation for 3 Embassy attacks and 20 deaths.

    AAAOutrage.jpg

    I was never outraged by the Embassy attacks under Bush, I was saddened and proud of these people who risked their lives, and ultimately gave their lives to represent the United States in very dangerous places, and to politicize their deaths would have been to demean their service. If Chris Stevens had survived and become a potential Democratic candidate, Republicans would be blaming him for the deaths in Benghazi.

    Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?
    Well, really counting the mistakes of other administrations.....just don't justify the argument. As the idea is not to keep doing the wrong things. So pointing out that another wrong. From another Administration. Doesn't make it okay for this one to do wrong too. Nor does it give them a pass to go and do wrong.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter Named Most Trusted U.S. Politician in New Poll.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    Benghazi = 9/11???

    Yeah, ok.

    And where was Bush during the numerous attacks and murders of our diplomats?

    Considering he was on vacation 32% of his Presidency and we had 10 Embassy and Consulate Attacks under his watch with 60 deaths, a little math would indicate that he was likely on vacation for 3 Embassy attacks and 20 deaths.

    AAAOutrage.jpg

    I was never outraged by the Embassy attacks under Bush, I was saddened and proud of these people who risked their lives, and ultimately gave their lives to represent the United States in very dangerous places, and to politicize their deaths would have been to demean their service. If Chris Stevens had survived and become a potential Democratic candidate, Republicans would be blaming him for the deaths in Benghazi.

    Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?
    Bush isn't President.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter Named Most Trusted U.S. Politician in New Poll.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, really counting the mistakes of other administrations.....just don't justify the argument. As the idea is not to keep doing the wrong things. So pointing out that another wrong. From another Administration. Doesn't make it okay for this one to do wrong too. Nor does it give them a pass to go and do wrong.
    and that's the hypocrisy of the libtards. they squeal and cry and wring their hands about how bad Bush was...and Obama is almost just like him and they love Obama and he can do no wrong.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter Named Most Trusted U.S. Politician in New Poll.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, really counting the mistakes of other administrations.....just don't justify the argument. As the idea is not to keep doing the wrong things. So pointing out that another wrong. From another Administration. Doesn't make it okay for this one to do wrong too. Nor does it give them a pass to go and do wrong.
    I don't think Bush DID DO wrong as it relates to the Embassy Attacks, that is why there was no outrage by Democrats (and obviously not Republicans) in response to those attacks. It is a dangerous complex world and stuff happens. We mourn the dead, respect their service, make changes where we find it might make a difference in the future, and move on. There were mistakes made with respect to every one of those attacks, we can only do our best, we cannot be perfect. It is fair to look into them, it is ridiculous to politicize them. I have no doubt that the lessons learned from the attacks under Bush led to the policies that have resulted in far fewer deaths under Obama, but it seems that Obama is held to a different and much higher standard than Bush ever was. Anyone that does not recognize that the difference is political is delusional.

    The Administration did not handle this perfectly, perhaps they handled it badly, but after all the partisan hearings and investigations, there is nothing to suggest that these good people could have been saved but for political decisions by the Administration.

    Benghazi SHOULD evoke the dedication and sacrifice of Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone S. Woods and Glen A. Doherty, not the political witch hunt which demeans their service.

    This is crass political opportunism and it disgusts me.
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    I do not believe any amount of people committing suicide with firearms justifies requiring firearm sellers to preach to customers about suicide regardless if it would or wouldn't save those who commit suicide.

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