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Jimmy Carter Named Most Trusted U.S. Politician in New Poll.....

OscarB63 said:
I love how the libtards keep bleating on about this and yet not a word ever mentioned about "the chosen one" being AWOL during the attack in Benghazi
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Benghazi = 9/11???

Yeah, ok.

And where was Bush during the numerous attacks and murders of our diplomats?

Considering he was on vacation 32% of his Presidency and we had 10 Embassy and Consulate Attacks under his watch with 60 deaths, a little math would indicate that he was likely on vacation for 3 Embassy attacks and 20 deaths.

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I was never outraged by the Embassy attacks under Bush, I was saddened and proud of these people who risked their lives, and ultimately gave their lives to represent the United States in very dangerous places, and to politicize their deaths would have been to demean their service. If Chris Stevens had survived and become a potential Democratic candidate, Republicans would be blaming him for the deaths in Benghazi.

Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?
 
CaptinSarcastic said:
Benghazi = 9/11???

Yeah, ok.

And where was Bush during the numerous attacks and murders of our diplomats?

Considering he was on vacation 32% of his Presidency and we had 10 Embassy and Consulate Attacks under his watch with 60 deaths, a little math would indicate that he was likely on vacation for 3 Embassy attacks and 20 deaths.

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I was never outraged by the Embassy attacks under Bush, I was saddened and proud of these people who risked their lives, and ultimately gave their lives to represent the United States in very dangerous places, and to politicize their deaths would have been to demean their service. If Chris Stevens had survived and become a potential Democratic candidate, Republicans would be blaming him for the deaths in Benghazi.

Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?
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Well, really counting the mistakes of other administrations.....just don't justify the argument. As the idea is not to keep doing the wrong things. So pointing out that another wrong. From another Administration. Doesn't make it okay for this one to do wrong too. Nor does it give them a pass to go and do wrong. ;)
 
CaptinSarcastic said:
Benghazi = 9/11???

Yeah, ok.

And where was Bush during the numerous attacks and murders of our diplomats?

Considering he was on vacation 32% of his Presidency and we had 10 Embassy and Consulate Attacks under his watch with 60 deaths, a little math would indicate that he was likely on vacation for 3 Embassy attacks and 20 deaths.

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I was never outraged by the Embassy attacks under Bush, I was saddened and proud of these people who risked their lives, and ultimately gave their lives to represent the United States in very dangerous places, and to politicize their deaths would have been to demean their service. If Chris Stevens had survived and become a potential Democratic candidate, Republicans would be blaming him for the deaths in Benghazi.

Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?
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Bush isn't President.
 
MMC said:
Well, really counting the mistakes of other administrations.....just don't justify the argument. As the idea is not to keep doing the wrong things. So pointing out that another wrong. From another Administration. Doesn't make it okay for this one to do wrong too. Nor does it give them a pass to go and do wrong. ;)
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and that's the hypocrisy of the libtards. they squeal and cry and wring their hands about how bad Bush was...and Obama is almost just like him and they love Obama and he can do no wrong.
 
MMC said:
Well, really counting the mistakes of other administrations.....just don't justify the argument. As the idea is not to keep doing the wrong things. So pointing out that another wrong. From another Administration. Doesn't make it okay for this one to do wrong too. Nor does it give them a pass to go and do wrong. ;)
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I don't think Bush DID DO wrong as it relates to the Embassy Attacks, that is why there was no outrage by Democrats (and obviously not Republicans) in response to those attacks. It is a dangerous complex world and stuff happens. We mourn the dead, respect their service, make changes where we find it might make a difference in the future, and move on. There were mistakes made with respect to every one of those attacks, we can only do our best, we cannot be perfect. It is fair to look into them, it is ridiculous to politicize them. I have no doubt that the lessons learned from the attacks under Bush led to the policies that have resulted in far fewer deaths under Obama, but it seems that Obama is held to a different and much higher standard than Bush ever was. Anyone that does not recognize that the difference is political is delusional.

The Administration did not handle this perfectly, perhaps they handled it badly, but after all the partisan hearings and investigations, there is nothing to suggest that these good people could have been saved but for political decisions by the Administration.

Benghazi SHOULD evoke the dedication and sacrifice of Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone S. Woods and Glen A. Doherty, not the political witch hunt which demeans their service.

This is crass political opportunism and it disgusts me.
 
OscarB63 said:
and that's the hypocrisy of the libtards. they squeal and cry and wring their hands about how bad Bush was...and Obama is almost just like him and they love Obama and he can do no wrong.
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Well that's the thing about hypocrisy, isn't it. If "libtards" (nice) were outraged by the attacks under Bush, and defensive of the attack under Obama, that would be hypocrisy, but they weren't, were they?

The hypocrisy, in this case, is on the part of the folks who did NOT hold hearings about the previous 10 Embassy attacks but act as if this one is the equivalent of 9/11.

Just admit it is political and that you hate Obama and will use any circumstance to criticize him, then go forth and continue being hypocritical political opportunists.
 
MMC said:
Americans really, really trust Hollywood. They are, however, far more skeptical of Washington, D.C.

A new survey on the most trusted people in America finds actors taking the top three spots: Tom Hanks, Sandra Bullock and Denzel Washington. The first politician to appear on the list is former President Jimmy Carter, who comes in at number 24.

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Carter, 88, often referred to as the most successful ex-president in American history, has earned bipartisan praise since leaving office for his work on behalf of various humanitarian causes.

During his successful 1976 presidential campaign, Carter won over a majority of American voters with his “Trust Me” campaign slogan.

The surveyed asked 1,000 participants who they trusted the most and was conducted by The Wagner Group for Readers Digest.

President Obama made the list as well but came in at number 65.

According to the list, Obama was edged out by none other than Adam Sandler, named the 64th most trusted person in America.

No other former president made the list, though Hillary Clinton, a potential 2016 candidate, came in at number 51....snip~

Jimmy Carter named most trusted U.S. politician in new poll

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.....who would have ever thought that. Carter, AKA.....Jimmy Mac!
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Even Beat Obama out on that one.
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Lookie Jimmy.....Stylin and Profilin!!!!!
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All of the people that voted for jimmy must be too young to remember double digit interest and inflation, those were miserable years for the middle class
 
CaptinSarcastic said:
I don't think Bush DID DO wrong as it relates to the Embassy Attacks, that is why there was no outrage by Democrats (and obviously not Republicans) in response to those attacks. It is a dangerous complex world and stuff happens. We mourn the dead, respect their service, make changes where we find it might make a difference in the future, and move on. There were mistakes made with respect to every one of those attacks, we can only do our best, we cannot be perfect. It is fair to look into them, it is ridiculous to politicize them. I have no doubt that the lessons learned from the attacks under Bush led to the policies that have resulted in far fewer deaths under Obama, but it seems that Obama is held to a different and much higher standard than Bush ever was. Anyone that does not recognize that the difference is political is delusional.

The Administration did not handle this perfectly, perhaps they handled it badly, but after all the partisan hearings and investigations, there is nothing to suggest that these good people could have been saved but for political decisions by the Administration.

Benghazi SHOULD evoke the dedication and sacrifice of Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone S. Woods and Glen A. Doherty, not the political witch hunt which demeans their service.

This is crass political opportunism and it disgusts me.
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Well.....I would direct you to the Fact Checkers and the Newly released ABC link and their discovery over Benghazi this morning. As I don't want to derail this thread off of the Jimmy Mac. :2razz:
 
MMC said:
Well, really counting the mistakes of other administrations.....just don't justify the argument. As the idea is not to keep doing the wrong things. So pointing out that another wrong. From another Administration. Doesn't make it okay for this one to do wrong too. Nor does it give them a pass to go and do wrong. ;)
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But it does tell you a lot about why Republicans are outraged about Benghazi -- it's not about people dying, it's about what political party someone belongs to.
 
jonny5 said:
Bush isn't President.
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And Republicans did not care about Embassy Attacks when he was, and a great many of the SAME Republicans are in office.

It is instructional to compare how these SAME current Republicans viewed Embassy attacks when a member of their party was at the helm and now, it tells us that the outrage is phony and political.

It is also instructional to look at how the opposition viewed Embassy attacks when the opposition was the Executive, because if they were outraged then, and not now, that would be evidence of political motivation with respect to the response of murder of diplomats, but there was no Democratic outrage.

Democrats are perfectly capable of hypocrisy, but in this case, it's all GOP.
 
CaptinSarcastic said:
Well that's the thing about hypocrisy, isn't it. If "libtards" (nice) were outraged by the attacks under Bush, and defensive of the attack under Obama, that would be hypocrisy, but they weren't, were they?
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yes they were. just because you ignored it or didn't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen
 
Rocketman said:
All of the people that voted for jimmy must be too young to remember double digit interest and inflation, those were miserable years for the middle class
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But this poll was not about ability as president. This was about the perception of honesty. No fan of Carter as a president, but I do think he was reasonably honest.
 
Rocketman said:
All of the people that voted for jimmy must be too young to remember double digit interest and inflation, those were miserable years for the middle class
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I was too young to vote in '76, but did vote in '80, and on the basis that we generally vote in America, the current condition of the country at the time. Based on that, I voted for Ronald Reagan.

Had I known that Carter made a decidedly selfless and non-political decision that would turn our economy around in glorious fashion within a couple of years of the end of his first term, I would have voted for him.
 
OscarB63 said:
yes they were. just because you ignored it or didn't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen
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There were a total of three hearings for ALL of the Embassy attacks under Bush, there have already been around eight hearings on Benghazi.

You say a thing, but the facts contradict your assertion.
 
MMC said:
Americans really, really trust Hollywood. They are, however, far more skeptical of Washington, D.C.

A new survey on the most trusted people in America finds actors taking the top three spots: Tom Hanks, Sandra Bullock and Denzel Washington. The first politician to appear on the list is former President Jimmy Carter, who comes in at number 24.

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Carter, 88, often referred to as the most successful ex-president in American history, has earned bipartisan praise since leaving office for his work on behalf of various humanitarian causes.

During his successful 1976 presidential campaign, Carter won over a majority of American voters with his “Trust Me” campaign slogan.

The surveyed asked 1,000 participants who they trusted the most and was conducted by The Wagner Group for Readers Digest.

President Obama made the list as well but came in at number 65.

According to the list, Obama was edged out by none other than Adam Sandler, named the 64th most trusted person in America.

No other former president made the list, though Hillary Clinton, a potential 2016 candidate, came in at number 51....snip~

Jimmy Carter named most trusted U.S. politician in new poll

wow.gif
.....who would have ever thought that. Carter, AKA.....Jimmy Mac!
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Even Beat Obama out on that one.
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Lookie Jimmy.....Stylin and Profilin!!!!!
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I think Jimmy deserves it. But for me the most trusted president in my lifetime was Eisenhower. But I think most of you were not around during his time as president, so Jimmy is a fine pick.
 
jimbo said:
But this poll was not about ability as president. This was about the perception of honesty. No fan of Carter as a president, but I do think he was reasonably honest.
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Yep.....and Both Obama and Hillary made the list. But Carter is way ahead of them on trustworthiness.
 
CaptinSarcastic said:
I was too young to vote in '76, but did vote in '80, and on the basis that we generally vote in America, the current condition of the country at the time. Based on that, I voted for Ronald Reagan.

Had I known that Carter made a decidedly selfless and non-political decision that would turn our economy around in glorious fashion within a couple of years of the end of his first term, I would have voted for him.
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My family operated a business back then and almost went under paying 18+% on loans and inflation over 20%. It was awful
 
CaptinSarcastic said:
There were a total of three hearings for ALL of the Embassy attacks under Bush, there have already been around eight hearings on Benghazi.

You say a thing, but the facts contradict your assertion.
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You missed the biggest glaring difference. In those attacks during Bush, it was admitted, terrorist attack, terrorist attack, terrorist attack. Benghazi, it was a video attack, an incensed mob over a video, not a terrorist attack.
 
Perotista said:
I think Jimmy deserves it. But for me the most trusted president in my lifetime was Eisenhower. But I think most of you were not around during his time as president, so Jimmy is a fine pick.
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I wish we had the integrity as a nation to choose a man like Ike again.

But the chances of picking a guy that would say something like this (below) is pretty close to nil (or about the same as Buddy Roemer's chances)...

"A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction...
This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every statehouse, every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and liberty may prosper together."

People of this quality are out there, and would be willing to lead, it is our failing that we preclude their selection and have allowed, heck encouraged, Ike's worst fears to become SOP.
 
Perotista said:
I think Jimmy deserves it. But for me the most trusted president in my lifetime was Eisenhower. But I think most of you were not around during his time as president, so Jimmy is a fine pick.
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Heya Pero. :2wave: I would have to agree for the Man that had the Cabinet known as the 8 millionaires and One Plumber. ;)
 
MMC said:
Americans really, really trust Hollywood. They are, however, far more skeptical of Washington, D.C.

A new survey on the most trusted people in America finds actors taking the top three spots: Tom Hanks, Sandra Bullock and Denzel Washington. The first politician to appear on the list is former President Jimmy Carter, who comes in at number 24.

JimmyCarterSpeech.jpg


Carter, 88, often referred to as the most successful ex-president in American history, has earned bipartisan praise since leaving office for his work on behalf of various humanitarian causes.

During his successful 1976 presidential campaign, Carter won over a majority of American voters with his “Trust Me” campaign slogan.

The surveyed asked 1,000 participants who they trusted the most and was conducted by The Wagner Group for Readers Digest.

President Obama made the list as well but came in at number 65.

According to the list, Obama was edged out by none other than Adam Sandler, named the 64th most trusted person in America.

No other former president made the list, though Hillary Clinton, a potential 2016 candidate, came in at number 51....snip~

Jimmy Carter named most trusted U.S. politician in new poll

wow.gif
.....who would have ever thought that. Carter, AKA.....Jimmy Mac!
thanks.gif


Even Beat Obama out on that one.
pointlaugh.gif
Lookie Jimmy.....Stylin and Profilin!!!!!
shades.gif
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If you really think about it, choosing a trusted politician is like choosing a trusted used car salesman. You are actually choosing the least deceitful, not trustworthy.
 
Perotista said:
If you really think about it, choosing a trusted politician is like choosing a trusted used car salesman. You are actually choosing the least deceitful, not trustworthy.
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I wonder why No one was mentored by Dodge. He was Ike's Budget director.....I use to run around with one of his quotes in my sig. Until I switched it out.
 
Amadeus said:
Of course, terrorism can't be applied to anything Israel has done. They are all sunshine and rainbows.
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Seriously, you need to start cracking some books on real history....

That pos Carter on, the Iranian hostage crisis - he did nothing, he sent a message to the Islamic world that the US was a worthless paper tiger. This fueled radical Islam, which at the time was a distinct minority in the Islamic world. He is the Godfather of Hamas, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Islamic Brotherhood, and other modern day terror organization

Don't forget the fuel shortages and gas lines, interest rates, mortgage rates of 18%, double digit unemployment rates, etc, etc


Oh crap, I was forgetting...how he defunded the military and intelligence community, *the Panama Canal (Canal Zone) was lost

Just the thought that Carter was President is truly disgusting
 
CaptinSarcastic said:
I wish we had the integrity as a nation to choose a man like Ike again.

But the chances of picking a guy that would say something like this (below) is pretty close to nil (or about the same as Buddy Roemer's chances)...

"A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction...
This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every statehouse, every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and liberty may prosper together."

People of this quality are out there, and would be willing to lead, it is our failing that we preclude their selection and have allowed, heck encouraged, Ike's worst fears to become SOP.
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I agree. Ike said in one of his earlier speeches before his farewell address that every dollar spent on defense is a dollar less spent on schools, infrastructure etc. He went on to say the need must be balanced so we do not spend more than one dollar necessary for defense.
 
CaptinSarcastic said:
And Republicans did not care about Embassy Attacks when he was, and a great many of the SAME Republicans are in office.

It is instructional to compare how these SAME current Republicans viewed Embassy attacks when a member of their party was at the helm and now, it tells us that the outrage is phony and political.

It is also instructional to look at how the opposition viewed Embassy attacks when the opposition was the Executive, because if they were outraged then, and not now, that would be evidence of political motivation with respect to the response of murder of diplomats, but there was no Democratic outrage.

Democrats are perfectly capable of hypocrisy, but in this case, it's all GOP.
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For the purpose of politics, that's fine. But this particular event should stand on its own. Either something is wrong now or it isn't. And what was wrong in the past doesn't matter.
 
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