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US Government shuts down 3D gun manufacturer

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The revolutionary concept of 3-D printed firearms has been building momentum for months now. Online observers, innovators, investors and the generally curious celebrated as the first completely 3-D printed handgun became a reality. Since the blueprint for “The Liberator” hit the web, the file was downloaded thousands of times in just a few days.Today, the government shut it down.


Read more: US Government shuts down 3D gun manufacturer | Washington Times Communities


Looks like your not gonna be able to get that file to make your own gun from this guy anymore..
 
Read more: US Government shuts down 3D gun manufacturer | Washington Times Communities


Looks like your not gonna be able to get that file to make your own gun from this guy anymore.. [/FONT][/COLOR]

It's already out there on the web. That means it will be available forever, you just have to know where to look.


Trying to restrict information in the Information Age is like trying to compress clay by squeezing it in your hand... it just oozes out between your fingers.
 
The wheel turns. This was a part of Mr. Wilson's plan all along. This was the point he was trying to make all along.
 
People who think this is going to do anything are clueless about the internet.
 
People who think this is going to do anything are clueless about the internet.

I agree 100%. I was just stating that you wont be able to get the file to make this from that guy anymore. Its out there on the net forever nwo.
 
Wow, the government shows how much it sucks once again. I guess the only bright spot is that its oppressive bull**** is fail.
 
Since they were hosting the file in NZ (IIRC) I wonder how that will effect things considering which law they're using?
 
I wonder what the barrel life is for this thing?
 
I wonder what the barrel life is for this thing?

About one to two shots. And it's apparently very inaccurate. Also, apparently it's not the barrel though, the inherent stress that discharge forces upon the receivers is what is causing plastic firearms, even ABS ones to fail.

Honestly, firing a gun where its upper receiver is made of ABS plastic scares me. And given their early tests, it scared them too.
 
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Read more: US Government shuts down 3D gun manufacturer | Washington Times Communities

Looks like your not gonna be able to get that file to make your own gun from this guy anymore.. [/FONT][/COLOR]

Considering the cost of a printer, the material to make it and the possibility of personal injury in firing this thing, it's just easier and cheaper to go buy a real firearm.

3D printing has a long way to go before we're going to get reliable, safe 3D printed guns. The Democrats are seriously overreacting to this thing.

Wonder if the file has a disclaimer about risk of personal injury from firing the weapon. I wouldn't be surprised if more people end up hurting themselves when the firearm malfunctions then people injured by intentional usage.
 
I think the USG has already got plastic weapons in their spy agencies and nobody is really going to want one for private use. It's an interesting concept but I doubt very many will actually ever be made.

Sleep easy Mr. O. It's cool.


Considering the cost of a printer, the material to make it and the possibility of personal injury in firing this thing, it's just easier and cheaper to go buy a real firearm.

3D printing has a long way to go before we're going to get reliable, safe 3D printed guns. The Democrats are seriously overreacting to this thing.

Wonder if the file has a disclaimer about risk of personal injury from firing the weapon. I wouldn't be surprised if more people end up hurting themselves when the firearm malfunctions then people injured by intentional usage.
 
I think the USG has already got plastic weapons in their spy agencies and nobody is really going to want one for private use. It's an interesting concept but I doubt very many will actually ever be made.

Sleep easy Mr. O. It's cool.

But those are very different. Composite material pistols and rifles are manufactured very different from 3D printing. Producing a pistol out of carbon fiber with upper receivers made of hardened materials is radically different from 3D printing. It's one thing to have a manufacturing process which is extensive in chemically and thermally creating strong composite materials from various substocks and one that prints out a photopolymer into parts of a gun for manufacture.

The gun nuts are praising this but don't seem to understand the limitations of the materials for 3D printing. Even the metal ones I wouldn't trust. Depositing metal layers and then fusing them together with a laser results in a very weak product. Good for kids toys sure, but an upper receiver? You gotta be kidding me. The stress that a discharged round places upon a firearm is immense. Anyone who's fired a decent size round rifle knows of the kickback. That's a real simple analogy. Can a weak metal or plastic firearm reliably take that kind of stress without failing? Not yet. And I don't think we'll see if for a long time.

And then the gun control nuts are going crazy over what amounts to a single round pistol that is likely to harm the user.

I think it's pretty cool. I also think it's massively over hyped. Remember that NASA for its 3D printing isn't considering plastic printing for the most part. It's considering sending blocks of high grade strong plastics and metals up and then lathing them into parts. The strength factor there is WAY higher than printing from liquid or powder.

At the end of the day, this is much to do about nothing,.
 
If Im not mistaken, I think the country is averaging about 46.5k new firearms sold daily. the number of people that would have actually made a gun utilizing this program...probably...maybe a handful. So...WTG Fed!!! You have stopped a crime wave while CONTINUING to ignore the people that are out there daily killing injuring and maiming people.
 
OH...and I wont post the link, but anyone that wants to make a functional 'zip gun' can do so with common household items and there are instructional videos everywhere on "how to".
 
If Im not mistaken, I think the country is averaging about 46.5k new firearms sold daily. the number of people that would have actually made a gun utilizing this program...probably...maybe a handful. So...WTG Fed!!! You have stopped a crime wave while CONTINUING to ignore the people that are out there daily killing injuring and maiming people.

Furthermore, when you consider the costs of it, it frankly doesn't make any sense if you're going to commit a crime with this. It's easier just to buy a stolen firearm then go through this mess to get a single shot pistol that has the potential to seriously malfunction in your hand. In fact, we should actually be encouraging criminals to go buy a cheap 3D printer, print this and then get potentially seriously injured when the device fails.
 
At best, it might be an assassination gun. Since we don't have very many assassinations, I'm sure society will survive.

I think it's more interesting that the project demonstrates the potential of 3D printers since most products don't have any explosive issues.


Furthermore, when you consider the costs of it, it frankly doesn't make any sense if you're going to commit a crime with this. It's easier just to buy a stolen firearm then go through this mess to get a single shot pistol that has the potential to seriously malfunction in your hand. In fact, we should actually be encouraging criminals to go buy a cheap 3D printer, print this and then get potentially seriously injured when the device fails.
 
At best, it might be an assassination gun. Since we don't have very many assassinations, I'm sure society will survive.

I think it's more interesting that the project demonstrates the potential of 3D printers since most products don't have any explosive issues.

But the caliber is small, so you'd need to get point blank to get a reliable one hit assassination. That's not a lot of room to move and frankly, if you're good enough to pull that off, you won't be using the Liberator.

The project itself is pretty cool, but the potential of 3D printers is well beyond that. Several organic 3D printing companies are working on replicating your own cells for rapid cell regrowth in badly damaged areas by spraying them directly into the wound. Imagine if you had a shark bite, they take cells from your body, rapidly grow them and spray them in correct order into the shark bite for rapid regeneration. That is amazing. Could cut down on serious trauma recovery from months to days.
 
Maybe we can ring in an era of discount hit-men. :roll:

I think amazing things lie right ahead for that industry.

But the caliber is small, so you'd need to get point blank to get a reliable one hit assassination. That's not a lot of room to move and frankly, if you're good enough to pull that off, you won't be using the Liberator.

The project itself is pretty cool, but the potential of 3D printers is well beyond that. Several organic 3D printing companies are working on replicating your own cells for rapid cell regrowth in badly damaged areas by spraying them directly into the wound. Imagine if you had a shark bite, they take cells from your body, rapidly grow them and spray them in correct order into the shark bite for rapid regeneration. That is amazing. Could cut down on serious trauma recovery from months to days.
 
Furthermore, when you consider the costs of it, it frankly doesn't make any sense if you're going to commit a crime with this. It's easier just to buy a stolen firearm then go through this mess to get a single shot pistol that has the potential to seriously malfunction in your hand. In fact, we should actually be encouraging criminals to go buy a cheap 3D printer, print this and then get potentially seriously injured when the device fails.

Especially since this gun costs *TONS* to make, it's not cheap, it's not easy and it's good for a single shot. Why do that when you can go buy one that actually works on the streets for a hundred dollars or so?
 
Especially since this gun costs *TONS* to make, it's not cheap, it's not easy and it's good for a single shot. Why do that when you can go buy one that actually works on the streets for a hundred dollars or so?

The start up cost is expensive, but the materials are fairly cheap. Seems like a great way to produce one-off weapons for criminals.
 
Considering the cost of a printer, the material to make it and the possibility of personal injury in firing this thing, it's just easier and cheaper to go buy a real firearm.

3D printing has a long way to go before we're going to get reliable, safe 3D printed guns. The Democrats are seriously overreacting to this thing.

Wonder if the file has a disclaimer about risk of personal injury from firing the weapon. I wouldn't be surprised if more people end up hurting themselves when the firearm malfunctions then people injured by intentional usage.

A highly inaccurate weapon that basically self-destructs and has serious risk of injury to the user or innocent bystanders? Yeah, why would anyone want to stop that from being sold?
Cars should have seatbelts. Guns shouldn't explode in the hands of the shooter.

Furthermore, when you consider the costs of it, it frankly doesn't make any sense if you're going to commit a crime with this. It's easier just to buy a stolen firearm then go through this mess to get a single shot pistol that has the potential to seriously malfunction in your hand. In fact, we should actually be encouraging criminals to go buy a cheap 3D printer, print this and then get potentially seriously injured when the device fails.

They don't make sense yet. Will that still be true 5 years from now?
 
The start up cost is expensive, but the materials are fairly cheap. Seems like a great way to produce one-off weapons for criminals.

Who would ever want a one-off weapon that fires a single shot and becomes a worthless hunk of plastic?
 
Who would ever want a one-off weapon that fires a single shot and becomes a worthless hunk of plastic?

If the choice were that or no gun, I'd take it.

Are you familiar with the original Liberator? A gun designed to be air dropped to resistance forces to use in the procurement of a real gun?
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It makes sense, in a WROL situation if you saw a guy with a good gun you print a liberator and use it to take his.
 
Who would ever want a one-off weapon that fires a single shot and becomes a worthless hunk of plastic?

I can think of several uses for a disposable gun, even assuming the technology doesn't progress. And like I said, some printers can already work with steel.
 
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