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Hahahah still taking it literally. Because you've never used phrases regarding anything liberal that might indicate violence if read literally, right? ;)

"Hahahaha", from one of the folks that screams, "racism!", with almost every waking breath.

I see that you're OK with advocating violence, as long as it's directed at the target that you want it to be. What were you saying hypocrisy in an earlier post?
 
I never get this. So when others practice their right to free speech in a way you don't agree with that is somehow a violation of free speech? Just as Rush Limbaugh can say what he wants, advertisers can choose not to do business with him because of what he says and does. That is freedom. What would you do? Force them to do business with him?
the liberal philosophy

they are for free speech but only if they agree with what is spoken
they want freedom of expression but only if you express their views
they agree with the right to protest but only if you don't protest against them
 
Was Becks ratings worse than Hannity and O'Reilly or Greta Van Susterns? I thought he was FoxNews #1 bread winner but that he was leaving for health reasons. So now he's got his own TV station, Blaze TV or GBTV or something? I'll say this for him, he never seems to give up.

I don't remember the exact numbers but, his ratings were quite good, especially for the time slot he was in, in the beginning. His numbers had a pronounced and extended slump with simultaneously his antics were drawing too much heat from too many places. With weakening ratings he just wasn't worth the liability.
 
So, when someone says that Obama should be lynched; that's just hyperbole, too? Or, are you one of the first ones to start crying, "racism!"?

the liberal philosophy

they are for free speech but only if they agree with what is spoken
they want freedom of expression but only if you express their views
they agree with the right to protest but only if you don't protest against them

This is the kind of crap I'm talking about. When people hear this on the radio day in and day out they become mentally radicalized. No decent American thinks like this, right or left. This teeth clenched, black and white, swinging wildly at imaginary oppressors, its such a massive distraction from actual reality. It obfuscates the political environment so that actual, real, bad things slip through largely unnoticed.

Look at the Benghazi debacle. From what I can tell there is some real, troubling issues at hand. However with the buck wild frothing at the mouth response of Fox, some on this forum, talk radio, its almost impossible to discern what is actually substantial, fact. This creates a hysterical circus which muddies the proper response, because nobody knows what is even reality anymore.
 
This is the kind of crap I'm talking about. When people hear this on the radio day in and day out they become mentally radicalized. No decent American thinks like this, right or left. This teeth clenched, black and white, swinging wildly at imaginary oppressors, its such a massive distraction from actual reality. It obfuscates the political environment so that actual, real, bad things slip through largely unnoticed.

Look at the Benghazi debacle. From what I can tell there is some real, troubling issues at hand. However with the buck wild frothing at the mouth response of Fox, some on this forum, talk radio, its almost impossible to discern what is actually substantial, fact. This creates a hysterical circus which muddies the proper response, because nobody knows what is even reality anymore.

What I find the most sad about this is the fact so many people are too dumb, ignorant or simply uncaring to realize they are being played by these media shock jocks. They don't understand that Rush, Fox News, Chris Matthews and MSNBC, etc. all say ridiculous and outrageous things on purpose, things they know are outrageous, because it drives ratings. They don't want to look at the rantings with a critical eye because then it might mean the listener would be wrong, and that's simply unacceptable.

I've seen this happen to my mother's second husband, who is a very intelligent and has been an incredibly successful businessman. Over the last 5 years, he's become increasingly radical when it comes to politics because all he does is sit/work at home during the day and watch Fox News. Even my mother has noted how much worse it has gotten since Obama became President. It's a constant barrage of negativity and outrageous commentary and it truly does radicalize those who listen.
 
This is the kind of crap I'm talking about. When people hear this on the radio day in and day out they become mentally radicalized. No decent American thinks like this, right or left. This teeth clenched, black and white, swinging wildly at imaginary oppressors, its such a massive distraction from actual reality. It obfuscates the political environment so that actual, real, bad things slip through largely unnoticed.

Look at the Benghazi debacle. From what I can tell there is some real, troubling issues at hand. However with the buck wild frothing at the mouth response of Fox, some on this forum, talk radio, its almost impossible to discern what is actually substantial, fact. This creates a hysterical circus which muddies the proper response, because nobody knows what is even reality anymore.
then prove me wrong. name one recognized conservative organization that advocated for any one on the lefts voice to be silenced?
 
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So, when someone says that Obama should be lynched; that's just hyperbole, too? Or, are you one of the first ones to start crying, "racism!"?

Huh? Did I miss something?
 
What I find the most sad about this is the fact so many people are too dumb, ignorant or simply uncaring to realize they are being played by these media shock jocks. They don't understand that Rush, Fox News, Chris Matthews and MSNBC, etc. all say ridiculous and outrageous things on purpose, things they know are outrageous, because it drives ratings. They don't want to look at the rantings with a critical eye because then it might mean the listener would be wrong, and that's simply unacceptable.

They are in the entertainment business, after all.
 
Well there is the rampant fraud of the financial industries that walked away almost completely unscathed. This is largely due to right-wing propaganda which reframes criminals as "free market businessmen".

Not to pop your bubble, but the walking away unscathed of the financial industries did not occur on a Republican watch, that all happened with the current administration.
 
This is the kind of crap I'm talking about. When people hear this on the radio day in and day out they become mentally radicalized. No decent American thinks like this, right or left. This teeth clenched, black and white, swinging wildly at imaginary oppressors, its such a massive distraction from actual reality. It obfuscates the political environment so that actual, real, bad things slip through largely unnoticed.

Look at the Benghazi debacle. From what I can tell there is some real, troubling issues at hand. However with the buck wild frothing at the mouth response of Fox, some on this forum, talk radio, its almost impossible to discern what is actually substantial, fact. This creates a hysterical circus which muddies the proper response, because nobody knows what is even reality anymore.

Every post, such as this, proves us right.

Why do you hate free speech?
 
Not to pop your bubble, but the walking away unscathed of the financial industries did not occur on a Republican watch, that all happened with the current administration.

It sure did, the more important question is why? I don't know what Obama and the most influential of his group would have liked to have happened. Perhaps they are corrupt partners of wall street and only pretended to try and take out the trash, I don't know. What I do know though is that Republicans for the most part (not all) were staunch advocates of wall street. They didn't just cover up the crime, they proposed that it wasn't crime at all, just good old fashioned hard knocks business. They resisted regulation, investigations, criminal charges, everything. They created a climate in which it was almost impossible to get anything done on it. Yet it's all the Obama administration's fault? They never even got much of a chance to be corrupt and collude with wall street, the Republicans took care of that all by them self. With results like this we can't fix our Democrat problem until we fix our Republican problem.
 
then prove me wrong. name one recognized conservative organization that advocated for any one on the lefts voice to be silenced?

If you bothered to read the thread you wouldn't be asking this question.
 
It sure did, the more important question is why? I don't know what Obama and the most influential of his group would have liked to have happened. Perhaps they are corrupt partners of wall street and only pretended to try and take out the trash, I don't know. What I do know though is that Republicans for the most part (not all) were staunch advocates of wall street. They didn't just cover up the crime, they proposed that it wasn't crime at all, just good old fashioned hard knocks business. They resisted regulation, investigations, criminal charges, everything. They created a climate in which it was almost impossible to get anything done on it. Yet it's all the Obama administration's fault? They never even got much of a chance to be corrupt and collude with wall street, the Republicans took care of that all by them self. With results like this we can't fix our Democrat problem until we fix our Republican problem.

Not to pop your bubble, but didn't you already explain to us why?

This is largely due to right-wing propaganda which reframes criminals as "free market businessmen".

For the first two years, you know, when all this happened, Barry had the WH , Senate, and House.

And during that time he managed to get passed the Obamacare bill, the one that nobody read.
 
Not to pop your bubble, but didn't you already explain to us why?

This is largely due to right-wing propaganda which reframes criminals as "free market businessmen".

For the first two years, you know, when all this happened, Barry had the WH , Senate, and House.

And during that time he managed to get passed the Obamacare bill, the one that nobody read.

Dodd-frank, Volcker rule, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

What very little they have gotten done Republicans have obstructed, defunded, resisted, repealed, watered down, destroyed. Yet you are complaining they should have bitten off even more when even this very modest few things have been bulldozed?
 
It sure did, the more important question is why? I don't know what Obama and the most influential of his group would have liked to have happened. Perhaps they are corrupt partners of wall street and only pretended to try and take out the trash, I don't know. What I do know though is that Republicans for the most part (not all) were staunch advocates of wall street. They didn't just cover up the crime, they proposed that it wasn't crime at all, just good old fashioned hard knocks business. They resisted regulation, investigations, criminal charges, everything. They created a climate in which it was almost impossible to get anything done on it. Yet it's all the Obama administration's fault? They never even got much of a chance to be corrupt and collude with wall street, the Republicans took care of that all by them self. With results like this we can't fix our Democrat problem until we fix our Republican problem.

people always seam to forget that the Democrats had control of the house, senate, and WH for 2 years and all what they did in those two years have been failures. an unpopular health care bill that the majority of America doesn't want, a 800 billion stimulus that didn't work, and millions flushed down the toilet on green energy companies
 
So, when someone says that Obama should be lynched; that's just hyperbole, too? Or, are you one of the first ones to start crying, "racism!"?

It can be racist and also not literally advocating violence. Context and whatnot.

"Hahahaha", from one of the folks that screams, "racism!", with almost every waking breath.

I see that you're OK with advocating violence, as long as it's directed at the target that you want it to be. What were you saying hypocrisy in an earlier post?

I've very clearly indicated that I don't believe those posts were literally advocating violence, which means you are straight up lying when you say I'm ok with advocating violence.

And really? Screams racist all the time? Check my post history, chief. You can stop projecting your blanket perception of liberals onto me. I don't fit your little profile.
 
people always seam to forget that the Democrats had control of the house, senate, and WH for 2 years and all what they did in those two years have been failures. an unpopular health care bill that the majority of America doesn't want, a 800 billion stimulus that didn't work, and millions flushed down the toilet on green energy companies

You should pay more attention to Verax. Those bills are all bills that the Republicans went out of their way to obstruct.
 
This is the kind of crap I'm talking about. When people hear this on the radio day in and day out they become mentally radicalized. No decent American thinks like this, right or left. This teeth clenched, black and white, swinging wildly at imaginary oppressors, its such a massive distraction from actual reality. It obfuscates the political environment so that actual, real, bad things slip through largely unnoticed.

Look at the Benghazi debacle. From what I can tell there is some real, troubling issues at hand. However with the buck wild frothing at the mouth response of Fox, some on this forum, talk radio, its almost impossible to discern what is actually substantial, fact. This creates a hysterical circus which muddies the proper response, because nobody knows what is even reality anymore.
Were it not for those frothy types you mentioned, the mainstream and administration would continue to sweep things quietly under the rug. This doesnt have to be a circus...it never did. There are some basic questions that should have been answered. Why wasnt the extra security that was requested offered. During the attack, why werent the people that were standing by to go in and render aid allowed to do so? Why did so many people perpetrate what we know (and what they obviously knew) was an outright lie downplaying the terror attack and creating this ridiculous blame on a video...a lie that was told over and over and over for several weeks? If the Secretary of State didnt know the answer to these questions WHY NOT? If the President didnt know the answer to these questions WHY NOT?

And just as an added bonus...since the president apparently doesnt know about what is going on in his State Department or his Dept of Justice, does that make him an inept buffoon or does that mean his people are intentionally keeping him in the dark, and if THAT is the case...why didnt this president chop off a few heads? WHat kind of CEO sees those things going on by his PMs and allows it?

All they had to say form day one (assuming this wasnt a coordinated coverup) is Joe Schmoe dropped the ball...didnt forward the request to the Sec State. Joe Schmoe has been fired with extreme prejudice. Mary Johnson at the CIA gave the false info about the 'protests' and she has been eliminated. But no...there has been nothing, no responsibility, no "lessons learned"...nothing. Instead...there has been what there always is...its not my fault...I didnt know...the sun was in my eyes. The dog ate my homework. Why does it matter?
 
It sure did, the more important question is why? I don't know what Obama and the most influential of his group would have liked to have happened. Perhaps they are corrupt partners of wall street and only pretended to try and take out the trash, I don't know. What I do know though is that Republicans for the most part (not all) were staunch advocates of wall street. They didn't just cover up the crime, they proposed that it wasn't crime at all, just good old fashioned hard knocks business. They resisted regulation, investigations, criminal charges, everything. They created a climate in which it was almost impossible to get anything done on it. Yet it's all the Obama administration's fault? They never even got much of a chance to be corrupt and collude with wall street, the Republicans took care of that all by them self. With results like this we can't fix our Democrat problem until we fix our Republican problem.

Obama
 
Were it not for those frothy types you mentioned, the mainstream and administration would continue to sweep things quietly under the rug. This doesnt have to be a circus...it never did. There are some basic questions that should have been answered. Why wasnt the extra security that was requested offered. During the attack, why werent the people that were standing by to go in and render aid allowed to do so? Why did so many people perpetrate what we know (and what they obviously knew) was an outright lie downplaying the terror attack and creating this ridiculous blame on a video...a lie that was told over and over and over for several weeks? If the Secretary of State didnt know the answer to these questions WHY NOT? If the President didnt know the answer to these questions WHY NOT?

And just as an added bonus...since the president apparently doesnt know about what is going on in his State Department or his Dept of Justice, does that make him an inept buffoon or does that mean his people are intentionally keeping him in the dark, and if THAT is the case...why didnt this president chop off a few heads? WHat kind of CEO sees those things going on by his PMs and allows it?

All they had to say form day one (assuming this wasnt a coordinated coverup) is Joe Schmoe dropped the ball...didnt forward the request to the Sec State. Joe Schmoe has been fired with extreme prejudice. Mary Johnson at the CIA gave the false info about the 'protests' and she has been eliminated. But no...there has been nothing, no responsibility, no "lessons learned"...nothing. Instead...there has been what there always is...its not my fault...I didnt know...the sun was in my eyes. The dog ate my homework. Why does it matter?

To hold the Obama administration accountable you certainly don't need the frothy types and my argument is that they impede the process. Look at what has happened, they've cried wolf and banged the drums so hard and so loud about every little stupid thing about Benghazi that most don't even pay attention to it anymore. Now some actual meat of wrongdoing is being provided yet its just another day of how Obama the communist muslim socialist is out to get you as far as most are concerned.
 

As I alluded to earlier I don't know what Obama's true intentions are, and neither do you and neither do those in that link. The argument that Obama is willing is countered with what is politically possible. If he came out swinging too hard at the financial industry he would have gotten his face smashed in. Without the people strongly backing him that just isn't going to happen in this partisan climate.
 
To hold the Obama administration accountable you certainly don't need the frothy types and my argument is that they impede the process. Look at what has happened, they've cried wolf and banged the drums so hard and so loud about every little stupid thing about Benghazi that most don't even pay attention to it anymore. Now some actual meat of wrongdoing is being provided yet its just another day of how Obama the communist muslim socialist is out to get you as far as most are concerned.
And just who was going to hold them accountable? The event occurred 9 months ago. You see a whole lot of media attention given to it? Democrats in congress? Concerned liberal citizens? Please. Then (as now with most of them) they have been playing "cover the tail of the donkey".
 
And just who was going to hold them accountable? The event occurred 9 months ago. You see a whole lot of media attention given to it? Democrats in congress? Concerned liberal citizens? Please. Then (as now with most of them) they have been playing "cover the tail of the donkey".

The right should have covered it respectfully, given it attention when it deserved it, and now when some actual substance comes out they could have ramped up coverage and put the heat on when it counted. They blew their credibility months ago so its just a wash now.
 
The right should have covered it respectfully, given it attention when it deserved it, and now when some actual substance comes out they could have ramped up coverage and put the heat on when it counted. They blew their credibility months ago so its just a wash now.

No, it's just getting started.

How do you respond "respectfully" when the President of the United States is shown to be a damned liar?
 
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