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    Re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    But if the issue is fairness for the local brick-and-mortar store*, then why should ANY business be exempt? Selling online out-of-state is just a cost of doing business, isn't it?

    *- One of the reasons commonly given, though personally I don't believe they give a rat's behind about the local stores, they just want their revenue.

    There is some devil's advocate in this question.
    i'd say the small guys have the potential to really get hit by shipping costs if their entire business is online.

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    Re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    From the article.
    Okay...what's your point?
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    Re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Okay...what's your point?
    In contradicts your point.
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    Re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    In contradicts your point.
    You are going to have to explain that to me. I don't think it does anything of the kind.
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    Re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    No. States have always been able to tax out of state purchases. This Senate bill has nothing to do with that.
    The article.

    Under current law, states can only collect from companies that are physically located within their borders.
    I could be missing something, that is why I asked.
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    Re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Again...the issue is not the tax. The issue is whether a State can compel the resident of another State to collect and deliver tax revenue. Evidently, the Senate wants them to be able to do so. I think it's a bad precedence.
    For one thing, I was directly responding to another post

    For another, you are wrong. It's not about whether a state can compel a resident of another state to collect taxes for it. SCOTUS decided that they can't. SCOTUS also said that Congress can.

    And the Senate did.
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    Re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    It won't cost the vendor anything? At all? Well, that's good news.

    Silly me, I thought they might have to pay people to spend time to administer the program, maybe an accountant to coordinate and send payments, etc. I mean, I'm sure most already have an accountant, but hey, it's just a few more forms and a few more payments. Time is free.
    What do you mean by "administer the program". Software does not need a baby sitter.

    The transfer of payments is done electronically. The sales tax collected from each sale is deposited into an account electronically. The collected funds are sent to the states from that account electronically. At most, the vendor has to click an OK button to verify the transfer.

    How much time does it take to click a button? How is this a burden?
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    Re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    The article.



    I could be missing something, that is why I asked.
    The confusion is between a states power to levy a tax, and the states power to collect the tax. States have always had the power to levy a tax on sales that were made within it's borders, even if one party was a resident of another state. However, the while the state was able to levy the tax, they did not have jurisdiction to enforce the tax and compel the out of state resident to collect the tax, nor could they make the state govt in the state that party resided in force that out of state resident to collect the tax.

    This bill gives states the power to force an out of state resident to collect those state taxes and send them to the state.
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    Re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    The article.



    I could be missing something, that is why I asked.
    Yes...you are missing something. You are confusing levying taxes with collecting taxes. Two different issues and the Senate bill addresses collecting taxes.
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    Re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    For one thing, I was directly responding to another post

    For another, you are wrong. It's not about whether a state can compel a resident of another state to collect taxes for it. SCOTUS decided that they can't. SCOTUS also said that Congress can.

    And the Senate did.
    The Senate bill doesn't compel anyone...whether state or resident...to collect taxes for anyone. The Senate bill allows States to compel out of State residents to collect and deliver that States taxes.

    Is this really so hard to understand?
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