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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Yeah, I know all this but I still can't figure out how you tie this to Republicans supporting this. I mean it is not like blue states are benefiting from no sales taxes more that red states. Or were you just being facetious?
    I think that they see the extra tax dollars their state government can collect and see it as a good thing, considering that money is also leaving the state even better.


    In other words the republicans see money that is leaving the state rather then staying within that state. So the state government is losing revenue and the state economy loses the money to a different state. Money spent at the local walmart provides more economic benefits then money spent at Amazon in a different state
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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    But, then, you also support tax exempt status for "special" entities, don't you ?..............................
    can you tell my how my state in the southwest, should get tax money for a pair of boots bought from LL Bean in Maine which they are created there and stored for sale?

    becuase the LL Bean site was created and is maintained (serviced) in Maine. and so who say its a tax on my delivery, sounds more like a delivery tax to me and not a sales tax.

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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    States have always been able to sue people in any state if that person has broken one of their laws in their state.

    If a business does not want to be sued by a state, there's a simple solution - Don't sell to anyone in that state

    But if they choose to do business in any state, then they have to abide the laws of that state
    i see this as new ground, and a series of problems to arise, with taxes.

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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well i was stating how laws have been looked at in the past, which is why out of state sales could not be taxed.....(past tense)

    now they are saying becuase you used you PC and made the exchange in your state, the state can tax it.

    but i submit, that even though i had the sales on my PC, the web site itself was created, and maintained in another state as well as the goods are stored their.

    what happens if a state feels a vendor across the u.s. has cheated them, shall we now have states suing citizens of other state for tax evasion?....becuase you have to think this question is going to arise, when you dealing in lots of money.

    They are saying that when you purchase something and it is delivered to your State for use in your State it is subject to State Sales tax. It has nothing to do with the internet. It seems logical and States do need the money but I would agree that a system that avoids litigation is needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    I also wonder about the taxes beyond state. Many counties and cities have additional sales taxes thus the burden for an online vendor to keep with it will be quite the burden. Sure some online software update on demand could be formulated but this just adds another expense dimension to businesses.
    The software also calculates the local sales taxes that apply based on the address that the goods are being shipped to. There's no added expense
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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    can you tell my how my state in the southwest, should get tax money for a pair of boots bought from LL Bean in Maine which they are created there and stored for sale?

    becuase the LL Bean site was created and is maintained (serviced) in Maine. and so who say its a tax on my delivery, sounds more like a delivery tax to me and not a sales tax.
    Transactions are considered to take place at the time and place when it is completed. In the case of online sales, this doesn't take place until the goods are delivered. Therefore, the transaction is considered to have taken place at the location the goods were delivered to.
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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I think that they see the extra tax dollars their state government can collect and see it as a good thing, considering that money is also leaving the state even better.


    In other words the republicans see money that is leaving the state rather then staying within that state. So the state government is losing revenue and the state economy loses the money to a different state. Money spent at the local walmart provides more economic benefits then money spent at Amazon in a different state
    Ok, so can I presume Senate from blue states that do not have internet stores supported it for the same reason? If yes would this represent 'meeting in the isle'.
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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i see this as new ground, and a series of problems to arise, with taxes.
    You can see whatever you choose; It's a free country

    However, the fact is that this is not a new tax. It's been around for many, many years.
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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    I support the tax. Better than income tax. If the government is pouring money into the economy, then market-based taxes are a small price to pay.

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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    can you tell my how my state in the southwest, should get tax money for a pair of boots bought from LL Bean in Maine which they are created there and stored for sale?

    becuase the LL Bean site was created and is maintained (serviced) in Maine. and so who say its a tax on my delivery, sounds more like a delivery tax to me and not a sales tax.


    It's a valid point. My point is that the tax on internet sales became a foregone conclusion once the amount of online sale/size of online sales reached a certain tipping point. I think the Left supports the taxation becuse it is protaxation and the Right supports taxation because it hates the idea of anything being out of it's clutches.....................

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