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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, its about business and the transactions of business. It does not deal with trade between the states.
    Yes it does!
    "empowers states to collect taxes on purchases made online by consumers in their states from out-of-state retailers. Under current law, states can only collect from companies that are physically located within their borders."

    A tax is a form of regulation, is it not?
    ...to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    Notice what the taxes are to be used for. This has nothing to do with any of those things listed.
    So your saying that we dont have debts? Your saying we dont use tax dollars to provide for the common defense and general welfare?


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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yes it does!
    "empowers states to collect taxes on purchases made online by consumers in their states from out-of-state retailers. Under current law, states can only collect from companies that are physically located within their borders."
    The reason states can not act outside of their borders is that their jurisdiction ends where their borders lie. That will probably never change. Do you enjoy allowing states to reach outside their jurisdiction? Do you not find that abandons a fundamental part of the constitution?

    A tax is a form of regulation, is it not?
    Does it matter? No.

    So your saying that we dont have debts? Your saying we dont use tax dollars to provide for the common defense and general welfare?
    To be used for the "United States"? It has nothing to do with this.

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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The reason states can not act outside of their borders is that their jurisdiction ends where their borders lie. That will probably never change. Do you enjoy allowing states to reach outside their jurisdiction?
    Its not reaching outside their borders. When one makes a purchase inside their borders that it not "reaching outside".

    Does it matter? No.
    of course it does. According to the commerce clause it does matter...


    To be used for the "United States"? It has nothing to do with this.


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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Its not reaching outside their borders. When one makes a purchase inside their borders that it not "reaching outside".
    argh.. Where is the business again?

    of course it does. According to the commerce clause it does matter...
    According to the commerce clause it does NOT matter.

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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    argh.. Where is the business again?
    Where was the purchase made?



    According to the commerce clause it does NOT matter.
    [The Congress shall have Power] To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States,


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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Where was the purchase made?
    You're missing the point. The business that needs to withhold tax dollars for the state is outside of their jurisdiction. They know this, the federal government knows this and everyone that is aware of the topic knows this. Allowing the federal government to do this for states is allowing states outside of their box.

    [The Congress shall have Power] To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States,
    Yes, among the several states. The two parties involved are both not states.

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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    You're missing the point. The business that needs to withhold tax dollars for the state is outside of their jurisdiction. They know this, the federal government knows this and everyone that is aware of the topic knows this. Allowing the federal government to do this for states is allowing states outside of their box.
    "Customers who order items online from another state are often supposed to declare the purchases on their tax forms, but few do or are even aware of that requirement."
    -This is simply a way to back up that requirement for the states allowing them to make their own laws.


    Yes, among the several states. The two parties involved are both not states.
    They are however are located in states and transporting good from across state borders.


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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "Customers who order items online from another state are often supposed to declare the purchases on their tax forms, but few do or are even aware of that requirement."
    The states can put whatever they desire on their tax code. That doesn't make it constitutional. They can not tax outside of their jurisdiction. Period. I believe what I said just now also happens to be the opinion of the supreme court.

    They are however are located in states and transporting good from across state borders.
    And your point is? That doesn't make them a listed member.

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    Senate approves Internet sales tax

    Senate approves Internet sales tax proposal - May. 6, 2013


    Get ready to start paying sales tax on goods you purchase online.

    Thanks Barack Obama. He did say he was going to close tax loopholes..... looks like he's closing them for the middle class first.

    Hey.... you guys voted for the guy. Enjoy.

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