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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I didn't post that they were advocating for communism. My point related to the "level playing field" and "pay their fair share" rhetoric that is abundant in today's society. Class war is the hallmark of Marxism, and we certainly have plenty of that going on today...
    Or maybe we are seeing the reemergence of classwarfare type rhetoric because people sense the reality that a large part of the Right's culture war has always consisted of a baldfaced animosity towards the idea that serfdom was "bad"...........................

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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Apparently you hate states rights to collect sales taxes.

    Here's the thing a lot of people don't realize:

    You are already obligated to pay sales taxes for online purchases.

    But you don't, do you? Pretty much nobody does. If your state levies sales taxes on purchases, you are supposed to be declaring those purchases on your tax returns. But nobody does, really. This just transfers the responsibility to collect those taxes to the retailers, like every other store in freaking history.

    Hate business? Why do you hate your state?

    (disclaimer: sales tax laws vary by state, there may be an exception or two, but I suspect all states with sales taxes behave this way)
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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    But you aren't outside their state if you are selling something to someone in that state.
    The bill in question is trying to get taxes from a consumer buying something from an online business outside of their state. The problem is that it turns the business into a tax collector for a state that the business is not even located in. The courts ruled some time ago this kind of action is unconstitutional for states to take part in and as such they have run to the federal government to do their dirty work to get around this little legal issue. The problem with that is two fold. One the federal government lacks the authority and for another it is not wise to allow states to start taxing people outside of their state with or without the federal governments assistance. Their jurisdiction to tax and pass laws is INSIDE their state for a reason and doing away with that is unwise for all parties involved.

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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Oh, I know all that. Let me put this as clearly and succinctly as I can. Ahem...

    I. Don't. Care.

    Wonderful contribution to the discussion, thank you. Tell us more about your propensity for tax evasion.
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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Advocating tax rates is not class warfare. Class warfare is a struggle against two classes with one class wanting to dominate or destroy the other one.
    Which high taxes do and people are aware of. The richest among us when all taxes are accounted for are at the moment paying over 70% in taxes.

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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Wonderful contribution to the discussion, thank you. Tell us more about your propensity for tax evasion.
    Some taxes need to be evaded. If taxes weren't evaded many among us would not have jobs.

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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Which high taxes do and people are aware of. The richest among us when all taxes are accounted for are at the moment paying over 70% in taxes.

    Ohhh plllleeeassse!


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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The bill in question is trying to get taxes from a consumer buying something from an online business outside of their state. The problem is that it turns the business into a tax collector for a state that the business is not even located in. The courts ruled some time ago this kind of action is unconstitutional for states to take part in and as such they have run to the federal government to do their dirty work to get around this little legal issue. The problem with that is two fold. One the federal government lacks the authority and for another it is not wise to allow states to start taxing people outside of their state with or without the federal governments assistance. Their jurisdiction to tax and pass laws is INSIDE their state for a reason and doing away with that is unwise for all parties involved.
    Your business may not be physically located in the other state, but you are operating within their state. Why do you think you are exempt from that state's rules? Why doesn't that state get to regulate operations within their borders?

    They aren't just arbitrarily taxing people in another state. You are operating in their borders by choice. That choice comes with certain obligations. Feel free to not sell to people in that state.
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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    Ohhh plllleeeassse!
    Do the math sometime if you want.

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    re: Senate approves online sales tax bill [W:244]

    Here's an honest question, because I don't know the answer. What's to stop a state from jacking up the taxes on a particular product to effectively put them out of business? Lets say Congressman X receives money from Nike but not Reebok. What's to stop Congressman X from slipping a higher tax on Reeboks into a bill as a favor to Nike? And before any of you say ethics, think long and hard about what kind of people we're talking about here. We're talking about people that won't vote into law a bill disallowing them to have insider trading rights.
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