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    Re: Democrats Back Away from Obama on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Do you think it is possible that help could have come from some other sort of Ally. Or was that just dropped from the equation?
    Time would have been spent asking our allies to help, and more time would have been used up for our ally's to send their reinforcements.

    The closest allies at hand were the forces provided by the Libyans themselves.

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    Re: Democrats Back Away from Obama on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    All that diatribe isn't going to move you away from the fact that nobody cares and it isn't going to get Obama impeached.
    "Nobody cares" ? That's a pretty stupid remark to make.

    I'm sure the uninformed don't care because they are uninformed.

    The Democrat Party is extremely concerned that the truth remains buried.

    The MSM is concerned because they have been giving Obama a complete pass since 2008 and are responsible for putting Obama in the White House in 2009 and are responsible of convincing the uninformed to give Obama a second chance in 2012. It's the MSM credibility that is in jeopardy.

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    Re: Democrats Back Away from Obama on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Part of his record on what? Faux outrage from people trying to compare Nixon's unlawful use of government to a government screw up? Government screw ups are a dime a dozen. I'm sure Iraq, Kosovo and Iran-Contra will be far more memorable than this. In 5 years nobody will even know about Benghazi. Most people will know about Iran-Contra and no WMDs.
    Evidently you haven't been keeping up if you have to ask on what. According to ABC, CBS and CNN. They are saying Obama changed his talking points. They are now saying that team Obama knew about the attack 48 hrs prior to the attack. We have the Libyans and the Brits pointing out 3days ahead of the attack they warned Team Obama. We also have Obama knowing about al-Zawahiri's release of his Video for 911 18 hrs before the attack.

    Again the Nixon argument is nothing but a deflection. 2 wrongs don't make it Right. Explaining away what another Administration did that was wrong. Has nothing to do with this Administration did and then Deny AQ was involved. Now Team Obama's Own FBI says AQ was involved.

    "So what.....maybe no one will remember Benghazi in 5 years. But going forward.....No Democrats WILL ever Again Ignore Clear warnings signs and allow Americans to be killed ever again, and certainly not while they are in Power. As this was their Team that dropped the ball on the Anniversary of 911. As well as their **** up with Libya from the get go.

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    Re: Democrats Back Away from Obama on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Time would have been spent asking our allies to help, and more time would have been used up for our ally's to send their reinforcements.

    The closest allies at hand were the forces provided by the Libyans themselves.
    Perhaps you should start looking up what the Brits have to say about that. Since they state that no one in the US ever contacted them.

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    Re: Democrats Back Away from Obama on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    "Nobody cares" ? That's a pretty stupid remark to make.

    I'm sure the uninformed don't care because they are uninformed.

    The Democrat Party is extremely concerned that the truth remains buried.

    The MSM is concerned because they have been giving Obama a complete pass since 2008 and are responsible for putting Obama in the White House in 2009 and are responsible of convincing the uninformed to give Obama a second chance in 2012. It's the MSM credibility that is in jeopardy.
    Well.....you didn't think they want the Low information voters finding out anything like........................the Truth now, did ya?

    I mean all you have to do is watch the same Democratic underground talking points that they use. Albeit distracting at times.....but quite comical otherwise.

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    Re: Democrats Back Away from Obama on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Evidently you haven't been keeping up if you have to ask on what. According to ABC, CBS and CNN. They are saying Obama changed his talking points. They are now saying that team Obama knew about the attack 48 hrs prior to the attack. We have the Libyans and the Brits pointing out 3days ahead of the attack they warned Team Obama. We also have Obama knowing about al-Zawahiri's release of his Video for 911 18 hrs before the attack.

    Again the Nixon argument is nothing but a deflection. 2 wrongs don't make it Right. Explaining away what another Administration did that was wrong. Has nothing to do with this Administration did and then Deny AQ was involved. Now Team Obama's Own FBI says AQ was involved.

    "So what.....maybe no one will remember Benghazi in 5 years. But going forward.....No Democrats WILL ever Again Ignore Clear warnings signs and allow Americans to be killed ever again, and certainly not while they are in Power. As this was their Team that dropped the ball on the Anniversary of 911. As well as their **** up with Libya from the get go.
    We can only make claims about these warnings with the benefit of hindsight, but at the time of the warnings there was still no concrete proof that the attacks would happen the way we did.

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    Re: Democrats Back Away from Obama on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Perhaps you should start looking up what the Brits have to say about that. Since they state that no one in the US ever contacted them.
    Would have. Should have. Could have.

    The errors happened some where in the middle of the bureaucracy.

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    Re: Democrats Back Away from Obama on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    We can only make claims about these warnings with the benefit of hindsight, but at the time of the warnings there was still no concrete proof that the attacks would happen the way we did.
    Not true.....

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...ck-get-go.html

    Libya: We gave US three-day warning of Benghazi attack .....


    American diplomats were warned of possible violent unrest in Benghazi three days before the killings of US Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three members of his team, Libyan security officials say.

    The claim came as the country's interim President, Mohammed el-Megarif, said his government had information that the attack on the US consulate had been planned by an Islamist group with links to al-Qa'ida and with foreigners taking part.

    However, the American ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, insisted that the killings had resulted from a demonstration against a film about the Prophet Mohamed, replicating protests in Cairo, which had been "hijacked" and got out of control.

    The Independent has reported diplomatic sources who said that the threat of an attack against US interests in the region was known to the US administration 48 hours before it took place. The alert was issued by the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security, but not made public. A State Department spokesman maintained: "We are not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on the US Mission in Benghazi was planned or imminent."

    But President Megarif told the American station National Public Radio: "We firmly believe that this was a pre-calculated, pre-planned attack that was carried out specifically to attack the US Consulate. A few of those who joined in were foreigners who had entered Libya from different directions, some of them definitely from Mali and Algeria."

    A senior official of the biggest militia in Benghazi, the February 17th Brigade, told CNN that he had warned US diplomats of a rapidly deteriorating security situation in Benghazi three days before the attack. "The situation is frightening, it scares us," he said he had stressed during the meeting.
    The British consulate in the city was shut after an ambush of a convoy carrying Dominic Asquith, the UK ambassador, in which his bodyguard were injured. The UN and International Committee of the Red Cross offices had been bombed and there had been a spate of political assassinations.

    However, Ms Rice denied the Benghazi attack was pre-planned. She said: "Our current best assessment... is that... it was a spontaneous – not a premeditated – response to what had transpired in Cairo. "A small number of people came to the consulate. It seems to have been hijacked by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons... And it then evolved from there."

    Captain Fathi al-Obeidi, who had taken an eight-strong American rescue team which had arrived from Tripoli to the safe house, said "I don't know how they found the place to carry out the attack. It was planned, the accuracy with which the mortars hit us was too good for any ordinary revolutionaries." On Sunday, the head of Libya's national congress said about 50 people had been arrested in connection with the attack on the US consulate, though the interior ministry put the figure far lower.....snip~

    Libya: We gave US three-day warning of Benghazi attack - Africa - World - The Independent
    Tuesday 18 September 2012 <<<<<

    Here Let that Be Rephrased again so that none In the Obama Administration can come back to deny it. It is a fact.....reported by the Libyans and the Brits.

    The Independent has reported diplomatic sources who said that the threat of an attack against US interests in the region was known to the US administration 48 hours before it took place. The alert was issued by the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security, but not made public. A State Department spokesman maintained: "We are not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on the US Mission in Benghazi was planned or imminent.".....snip~

    That's Right 48 hrs Before the Attack took Place.....Repeat 48 hrs before the attack took place. Which means it was known by the US even before Al-Zawahri (sp) even released his 911 Video Tape!!!!!

    Then there is that issue about the Libyans.....U know the Host Country providing Security. Notice how they were ignored!

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    Re: Democrats Back Away from Obama on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Is this the beginning of the end of Barack Obama's Presidency ?

    Is this Barack Obama's Watergate ?

    Nixon resigned because he lied (not under oath) that he had no knowledge of the Watergate break in knowing it could hurt his reelection for a second term in the White House. Nixon wasn't informed of the Watergate break in until after it happened. And no one was murdered during the Watergate break in.

    Evidence has already surfaced that President Obama knew while the attack on the consulate in Benghazi was in progress that it was a well organized attack having nothing to do with a You Tube video and by the next day it was confirmed that the attack was an Al Qaeda attack.

    But Obama knowing he has been running for reelection on a platform that Al Qaeda was on the run and being decimated, that if the American people found out that Al Qaeda isn't on the run and have expanded it's base of operations during his first term in the White House all across the Middle East and North Africa, this could cause him to lose reelection. So he ordered a cover up six weeks before the November elections.

    Will President Obama show the same respect to the office of the Presidency and resign as Nixon did back in 74 ?

    Will the Democrats follow the same course as the Republicans honorably did back in 74 when they told Nixon it's time to go ?

    It's starting to look likely some Democrats see Obama's Watergate coming.

    Sunday Shows: Democrats Back Away from Obama on Benghazi, Syria

    >" Democrats on Sunday morning's news shows appeared to back away from President Barack Obama on his administration's response to the Benghazi terror attack and his blurry "red line" on Syria's chemical weapons.
    On Fox News Sunday, Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-MA) admitted that the Obama administration's talking points on Benghazi, edited to remove references to extremism and blaming protests against an anti-Islamic YouTube video for the violence, were "false. They were wrong. There were no protests outside the Benghazi compound."

    On CBS News' Face the Nation, Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger (D-MD), the Ranking Member of the House Intelligence Committee, also admitted that the administration's talking points were wrong, though putting the changes down to the fact that the intelligence changed over time in a "volatile situation."


    Meanwhile, on Syria, former Rep. Jane Harman, a prominent California Democraet, acknowledged on NBC News' Meet the Press that the Obama administration had been slow to respond: "I wish we had acted sooner."

    Republicans remain divided on the Syria issue, but on Benghazi the caucus anticipates a week of testimony that will prove deeply damaging to the Obama administration, as well as the media's attempts to protect him. "<
    Sunday Shows: Democrats Back Away from Obama on Benghazi, Syria

    I predict that by the end of January 2017 he will be out of office. Mark my words!

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    Re: Democrats Back Away from Obama on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Not true.....

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...ck-get-go.html

    Libya: We gave US three-day warning of Benghazi attack .....


    American diplomats were warned of possible violent unrest in Benghazi three days before the killings of US Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three members of his team, Libyan security officials say.

    The claim came as the country's interim President, Mohammed el-Megarif, said his government had information that the attack on the US consulate had been planned by an Islamist group with links to al-Qa'ida and with foreigners taking part.

    However, the American ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, insisted that the killings had resulted from a demonstration against a film about the Prophet Mohamed, replicating protests in Cairo, which had been "hijacked" and got out of control.

    The Independent has reported diplomatic sources who said that the threat of an attack against US interests in the region was known to the US administration 48 hours before it took place. The alert was issued by the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security, but not made public. A State Department spokesman maintained: "We are not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on the US Mission in Benghazi was planned or imminent."

    But President Megarif told the American station National Public Radio: "We firmly believe that this was a pre-calculated, pre-planned attack that was carried out specifically to attack the US Consulate. A few of those who joined in were foreigners who had entered Libya from different directions, some of them definitely from Mali and Algeria."

    A senior official of the biggest militia in Benghazi, the February 17th Brigade, told CNN that he had warned US diplomats of a rapidly deteriorating security situation in Benghazi three days before the attack. "The situation is frightening, it scares us," he said he had stressed during the meeting.
    The British consulate in the city was shut after an ambush of a convoy carrying Dominic Asquith, the UK ambassador, in which his bodyguard were injured. The UN and International Committee of the Red Cross offices had been bombed and there had been a spate of political assassinations.

    However, Ms Rice denied the Benghazi attack was pre-planned. She said: "Our current best assessment... is that... it was a spontaneous – not a premeditated – response to what had transpired in Cairo. "A small number of people came to the consulate. It seems to have been hijacked by some individual clusters of extremists who came with heavier weapons... And it then evolved from there."

    Captain Fathi al-Obeidi, who had taken an eight-strong American rescue team which had arrived from Tripoli to the safe house, said "I don't know how they found the place to carry out the attack. It was planned, the accuracy with which the mortars hit us was too good for any ordinary revolutionaries." On Sunday, the head of Libya's national congress said about 50 people had been arrested in connection with the attack on the US consulate, though the interior ministry put the figure far lower.....snip~

    Libya: We gave US three-day warning of Benghazi attack - Africa - World - The Independent
    Tuesday 18 September 2012 <<<<<

    Here Let that Be Rephrased again so that none In the Obama Administration can come back to deny it. It is a fact.....reported by the Libyans and the Brits.

    The Independent has reported diplomatic sources who said that the threat of an attack against US interests in the region was known to the US administration 48 hours before it took place. The alert was issued by the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security, but not made public. A State Department spokesman maintained: "We are not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on the US Mission in Benghazi was planned or imminent.".....snip~

    That's Right 48 hrs Before the Attack took Place.....Repeat 48 hrs before the attack took place. Which means it was known by the US even before Al-Zawahri (sp) even released his 911 Video Tape!!!!!

    Then there is that issue about the Libyans.....U know the Host Country providing Security. Notice how they were ignored!
    How long would it have taken a marine unit to deploy to Libya in that amount of time? Too little too late.

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