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    Re: Obama Aide On Syria: 'If He Drops Sarin On His Own People, What’s That Got Do Wit

    The obvious answer is we absolutely SHOULD intervene. Or...shouldnt. It depends on what Obama actually does before anyone will take a truly definitive stand.

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    Re: Obama Aide On Syria: 'If He Drops Sarin On His Own People, What’s That Got Do Wit

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    A possible new wrinkle to the purported use of chemical weapons:

    From Reuters:

    U.N. human rights investigators have gathered testimony from casualties of Syria's civil war and medical staff indicating that rebel forces have used the nerve agent sarin, one of the lead investigators said on Sunday...

    President Bashar al-Assad's government and the rebels accuse each another of carrying out three chemical weapon attacks, one near Aleppo and another near Damascus, both in March, and another in Homs in December.


    U.N. has testimony that Syrian rebels used sarin gas: investigator | Reuters

    At this time, I still believe the lack of compelling U.S. interests in Syria's civil war argues against U.S. intervention. This new information, if confirmed, would highlight the ugliness of ethnic conflicts where the particpants often show little restraint when it comes to weapons use.

    C'mon people, you should know better than to post this. After all, this suggests Obama was right in waiting to investigate instead of just charging into Syria with guns blazing. Republicans simply cannot have anything good when it comes to President Obama. Heck, the first source is an article from an Israeli source, so you're not even allowing them the opportunity to criticize the "lamestream media", especially after Republicans have told us how much the Israeli people have to hate President Obama since he's been the worst President in showing support for Israel.

    You really should know better.

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    Re: Obama Aide On Syria: 'If He Drops Sarin On His Own People, What’s That Got Do Wit

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Yes, you have stated your opinion that the commies and obama are bad for stopping the UN from going into syria while you completely agree with not going into syria. Yes, none of that problem is you at all.
    I said no such thing...you are lying.


    Of course not, it is quite logical to oppose going into syria while opposing opposition to going into syria. Nothing contradictory at all in that. I am completely wrong in finding contradiction in two completely contradictory expressions of yours.
    I oppose going into Syria, that is all... nothing more.... stop lying.


    Yup yup, I have totally been proven wrong about you contradicting yourself.
    only in your fantasyland of a mind... i have made no contradiction... not one.


    No really, I am sure you are well aware of what you are doing and not living in a contradictory state that would make your opinions of your stance completely irrelevant.
    there is no contradiction,... as usual, you are wrong.

    I don't think that word means what you think it means.
    I don't think you know what lots of words mean.

    You have certainly corrected me by making unsupported statements based on your flawed opinions. I am not exactly sure why I was confused about your stance before. you have proven who and what you are beyond a shadow of a doubt at this point. Just don't get too angry at me for being smart enough to see your contradictions and lack of knowledge where you are unable to do so.
    you confuse being smart with being a blatantly dishonest.... there was no contradiction... you simply lied and made **** up about me... that's all there is to this little drama you concocted.

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    Re: Obama Aide On Syria: 'If He Drops Sarin On His Own People, What’s That Got Do Wit

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That was an ill-advised comment. On the other hand, we don't know which side used sarin. Should we get involved with helping the rebels, who may have used the sarin, and some of whom have al Qaeda ties? Or should we back the Assad regime, who are enemies of Israel and support Hezbollah?

    Only in your world is it black and white.
    From what I understand the rebels do not have that capability, that is unless they were able to steal some from Aasad's stockpiles and if they could do that.........? Personally, I am in no hurry to get involved in Syria, sure Aasad is despicable and has the backing of Iran. But the rebels are made up of approximately 20% AQ. U.S. interests in Syria may be doomed regardless of which side wins as each side may very well end up being strongly anti U.S.

    This may very be a case where just letting them fight it out is the best strategy while doing every thing we can to help Jordan and Turkey, which are our allies and friends.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Obama Aide On Syria: 'If He Drops Sarin On His Own People, What’s That Got Do Wit

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    From what I understand the rebels do not have that capability, that is unless they were able to steal some from Aasad's stockpiles and if they could do that.........? Personally, I am in no hurry to get involved in Syria, sure Aasad is despicable and has the backing of Iran. But the rebels are made up of approximately 20% AQ. U.S. interests in Syria may be doomed regardless of which side wins as each side may very well end up being strongly anti U.S.

    This may very be a case where just letting them fight it out is the best strategy while doing every thing we can to help Jordan and Turkey, which are our allies and friends.
    They've stolen other weapons from the government. So I don't know why not sarin.

    And I agree, let them kill each other. It's a no-win situation for us.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Obama Aide On Syria: 'If He Drops Sarin On His Own People, What’s That Got Do Wit

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    C'mon people, you should know better than to post this. After all, this suggests Obama was right in waiting to investigate instead of just charging into Syria with guns blazing. Republicans simply cannot have anything good when it comes to President Obama. Heck, the first source is an article from an Israeli source, so you're not even allowing them the opportunity to criticize the "lamestream media", especially after Republicans have told us how much the Israeli people have to hate President Obama since he's been the worst President in showing support for Israel.

    You really should know better.
    I was just passing along information.

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    Re: Obama Aide On Syria: 'If He Drops Sarin On His Own People, What’s That Got Do Wit

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That was an ill-advised comment. On the other hand, we don't know which side used sarin. Should we get involved with helping the rebels, who may have used the sarin, and some of whom have al Qaeda ties? Or should we back the Assad regime, who are enemies of Israel and support Hezbollah?

    Only in your world is it black and white.

    We are already helping the rebels and have been for quite some time

    U.S. aid to Syrian rebels is a signal to Iran Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

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    Re: Obama Aide On Syria: 'If He Drops Sarin On His Own People, What’s That Got Do Wit

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Isn't it vunderful to have the journ-O-lists cover your doo-doo's? Have to admit, they do a bang up job covering his arse.



    How can we? Well... to use a phrase you're familiar with buddy... Yes We Can. Just as Obama did in Libya.
    Did Obama go to Libya without Congressional approval? Yes he did. He doesn't need the corrupt UN.

    As for the comment... it doesn't exactly elicit a position of strength.

    I am in total agreeance with this aide. Hopefully the POTUS feels the same way. It's easy for haters to sit back and say that we should go to war at the drop of dime when they don't have to leave their family, watch their buddies die, and then return to live with the consequences.
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    Re: Obama Aide On Syria: 'If He Drops Sarin On His Own People, What’s That Got Do Wit

    “Having said that, I do not foresee a scenario in which boots on the ground in Syria, American boots on the ground in Syria, would not only be good for America, but also would be good for Syria,” the president said
    “Mr. Speaker, I once again find myself compelled to vote against the annual budget resolution for a very simple reason: it makes government bigger.” ― Ron Paul
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    Re: Obama Aide On Syria: 'If He Drops Sarin On His Own People, What’s That Got Do Wit

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I am in total agreeance with this aide. Hopefully the POTUS feels the same way. It's easy for haters to sit back and say that we should go to war at the drop of dime when they don't have to leave their family, watch their buddies die, and then return to live with the consequences.
    I have no illusion of the horrors of war, and war should never be at "the drop of a dime."

    It is the Demokrats that have used war for purposes of political expediency.

    The Demokrats voted to send troops to Iraq because they knew the public saw them as weak on matters of national security. Then, when the troops needed their backs covered, when they needed their support the most, all but one Demokrat turned and two-fisted knives in their backs. There is nothing lower than that... it is the absolute bottom of the barrel... equal to the perverts that locked up those girls for 10-years. That is the Moderne Demokrat Partei. They are beyond disgusting.

    But, this thread isn't about going to war, it is about the administration sending out signals of weakness. About putting a line in the sand PUBLICLY and then backtracking.

    It's a little like Clinton's continual finger wagging and doing nothing... which only emboldened the terrorists as they believed we were pussies, and there would be little to no consequences for their actions.

    THAT is dangerous.

    For a guy who claimed he had such great judgment, many have learned (and many knew before his election), that Obama is highly deficient in that department.
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