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    Re: Supremacist Gets 26 to Life in Killing of Molester

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    when I looked at the list for my state it tells you what the underlying conviction was like rape, forcible sodomy, taking indecent liberties with a minor under the age of X, etc.
    Even with those labels, the true nature of the offense can't necessarily be discerned. "Aggravated sexual assault against a minor" could mean an 18 year old having sex with his 16 year old girlfriend, but someone might interpret it as child molestation incorrectly.

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    Re: Supremacist Gets 26 to Life in Killing of Molester

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Sounds like a strategy by white supremacists to gain the sympathies of the general population by targeting a group that most of society hates. .
    That's fairly simplistic. It's more likely they have a set of convictions and are prepared to act beyond the law. It's not like child molesters do well around any group, their outcome is in fact worse around criminals.

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    Re: Supremacist Gets 26 to Life in Killing of Molester

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Sounds like a strategy by white supremacists to gain the sympathies of the general population by targeting a group that most of society hates. Given that most of society also hates overt white supremacy as well, their strategy probably isn't going to work.

    In any case, this is why sex offender registries should not be public. The public is not responsible enough to handle them.

    I'm also curious to know whether the man he killed was actually a child molester. The paper reports that he found out that he was a registered sex offender, but that could mean a variety of things. It seems like the supremacist and the paper are just assuming that the victim was a child molester.
    I don't think murder is going to make racists look better in anyone's eyes.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Supremacist Gets 26 to Life in Killing of Molester

    Seems like a conflation of issues. What does being a white supremacist have to do with the killing of a child molester? (The loosely tied in "It's their M.O."?)Just thrown in there for the hell of it? Rather interesting considering the "Flash mobs" that happen in Chicago, and the press reporting it specifically leaving the color of the perps out of it as they claim it is irrelevant to the story.

    Interesting indeed..

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    Re: Supremacist Gets 26 to Life in Killing of Molester

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Even with those labels, the true nature of the offense can't necessarily be discerned. "Aggravated sexual assault against a minor" could mean an 18 year old having sex with his 16 year old girlfriend, but someone might interpret it as child molestation incorrectly.
    No, aggravated sexual assault requires some forcible, unwanted contact that actually causes injury.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Supremacist Gets 26 to Life in Killing of Molester

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    That's fairly simplistic. It's more likely they have a set of convictions and are prepared to act beyond the law. It's not like child molesters do well around any group, their outcome is in fact worse around criminals.
    Eh, I would say that my hypothesis is (at least) as likely as yours. White supremacists, particularly in the modern day, are known for coming up with ways to ingratiate themselves with mainstream white America. Given that mainstream white America tends to hate and fear child molesters, it wouldn't surprise me if a white supremacist group used killing child molesters as a way of trying to get regular white Americans to support them. It's the same sort of the logic that the mob, gangs and similar groups have used in the past to earn the trust of a community in hopes of manipulating it.

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    Re: Supremacist Gets 26 to Life in Killing of Molester

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I don't think murder is going to make racists look better in anyone's eyes.
    I agree. That's why I said, "Given that most of society also hates overt white supremacy as well, their strategy probably isn't going to work."

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    Re: Supremacist Gets 26 to Life in Killing of Molester

    My curiosity makes me ask - by what description is this pair "white supremacists"? Please give details?
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    Re: Supremacist Gets 26 to Life in Killing of Molester

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I agree. That's why I said, "Given that most of society also hates overt white supremacy as well, their strategy probably isn't going to work."
    Yes, but I don't think this is their strategy because nobody is that stupid. Plus, there's no reason to expect this is part of some conspiracy. Angry, violent man did an angry, violent thing. His group apparently had some was one of angry, violent people who do angry, violent things. I don't think they do it to impress you or me.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Supremacist Gets 26 to Life in Killing of Molester

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Sounds like a strategy by white supremacists to gain the sympathies of the general population by targeting a group that most of society hates. Given that most of society also hates overt white supremacy as well, their strategy probably isn't going to work.
    I don't believe so. It's consistent with their beliefs, especially molestors, rapists that target white children.

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