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    Re: High School Track Team Disqualified When Runner Gestures Thanks to God

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    This wasn't about suppressing success, it's about suppressing taunting and teaching good sportsmanship. This rule removes the subjectivity aspect, and sets a firm black and white rule.
    there is always going to be subjectivity in sports officiating.

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    Re: High School Track Team Disqualified When Runner Gestures Thanks to God

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    right, and different leagues and organizations have different rules, that are applied based on best judgement by individuals.

    just the nature of sports officiating.
    Well... their judgement sucks.
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    Re: High School Track Team Disqualified When Runner Gestures Thanks to God

    I hope the officials left a round in the starting gun to shoot themselves with after making that call.
    Either I'm right or you're wrong.

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    Re: High School Track Team Disqualified When Runner Gestures Thanks to God

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Well... their judgement sucks.
    I agree the general idea seems rather stupid, and a byproduct of "everyone is a winner" mentality. It's like we want to ingrain in people there is something wrong with success

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    Re: High School Track Team Disqualified When Runner Gestures Thanks to God

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You're clearly so whitewashed you don't even realize that there are differences in black and white culture.
    Or I'm not of the racist opinion that only black people excessively taunt their opposition.

    Nobody is harmed by doing a dance or pointing a finger.
    Agreed, but that's not why raising an arm is prohibited. It's prohibited to prevent taunting, which can cause harm.

    White people watch WWE wrestling, right? All they do is taunt and celebrate. It's good entertainment. But when a black athlete does it in a football game, oh we can't have that.
    So you're comparing legitimate athletic competition to WWE wrestling? As someone who watches wrestling myself, I find your example to be outrageous.

    And yes, Joe Paterno is the quintessential figurehead of white sports.
    I see you totally did not get my point, which I must say does not surprise me.
    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    we will have to agree to disagree. Your comment about "real lack of sportsmanship in sports", when occurs shows a larger underlying problem. It starts with the parents.

    I still say, let the kids enjoy and celebrate in sports. They can be shown/taught how to do it without taunting.
    Amazing my generation for the most part did just fine without all these rules.
    Depending upon when your generation is, it's conceivable your generation consists of the parents who are the problem.

    But it's hard for me to reply much more than that, because I don't know what years your generation include.


    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    Excessive celebratory acts? So you just tuck in your tail, lower your head, and pretend you didn't accomplish anything?
    Or you can settle for a high five and a hug with your teammates, instead of something which draws attention to yourself and taunts the competition (theoretically). Or you can simply act like you've won something before and then celebrate later in private.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    there is always going to be subjectivity in sports officiating.
    Absolutely, but this is a subjective interpretation which can lead to disqualification. It's much better to just prohibit it totally. I mean, what advantage is lost by not being allowed to raise your arms in a 4x100 relay?

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    I hope the officials left a round in the starting gun to shoot themselves with after making that call.
    Yes, because those starter pistols do such terrible damage....

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I agree the general idea seems rather stupid, and a byproduct of "everyone is a winner" mentality. It's like we want to ingrain in people there is something wrong with success
    A) Eliminating taunting has nothing to do with "everyone is a winner" mentality.
    B) Success has nothing to do with winning.

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    Re: High School Track Team Disqualified When Runner Gestures Thanks to God

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Absolutely, but this is a subjective interpretation which can lead to disqualification. It's much better to just prohibit it totally. I mean, what advantage is lost by not being allowed to raise your arms in a 4x100 relay?
    fun, a moment to be proud of one's hard work, etc


    A) Eliminating taunting has nothing to do with "everyone is a winner" mentality.
    Well, when you remove the ability to merely celebrate success, as opposed to actual taunting, one might say your means to eliminate taunting doesn't really have anything to do with eliminating taunting


    B) Success has nothing to do with winning.
    Indeed it does. Unless you are saying winning has no relation to "the attainment of wealth, position, honors, or the like"

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    Re: High School Track Team Disqualified When Runner Gestures Thanks to God

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    fun, a moment to be proud of one's hard work, etc
    So the only time one can enjoy their hard work is in the 40-45 seconds of the event, and not for days afterwards?

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    Re: High School Track Team Disqualified When Runner Gestures Thanks to God

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    So the only time one can enjoy their hard work is in the 40-45 seconds of the event, and not for days afterwards?
    it's a rather pivotal moment for enjoying that success, because it's the very moment your hard work and dedication payed off, and it's a clear emotional high point in sports

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    Re: High School Track Team Disqualified When Runner Gestures Thanks to God

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I'm not sure citing hurt feelings over a raised arm really helps your position. As a basis for a rule, it's rather silly, even at the grade school level
    I think the DQ was uncalled for, and a very bad interpretation of the letter of the law. But let's not kid ourselves about what Breitbart is really concerned about.


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    Re: High School Track Team Disqualified When Runner Gestures Thanks to God

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    it's a rather pivotal moment for enjoying that success, because it's the very moment your hard work and dedication payed off, and it's a clear emotional high point in sports
    He could have enjoyed everything just as much if he had waited only another second or two. Even when my kids are winning their heat, I always tell them to run through the line, to not compete against others but yourself and the stopwatch. We'll celebrate after, usually with medals, and on a couple occasions this year, with re-doing the record board. I promise you those kids felt every bit as happy then as they did winning their heat/race.

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