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    re: Threats Against Benghazi Whistleblowers Alleged [W:345/361]

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    At a certain point you have to start asking who exactly the President works for. Is it us?
    OK, I know you have probably had some romantic version of government blown up your ass so you think that because you pay taxes every member of the government is your personal bitch, but you are very wrong. Save that little tidbit up and use it on the next cop that pulls you over. They do love their pompous arrogant employers so. The tiny bit of control we have over the federal and state governments pretty much end where our vote ends. We don't even get to vote on every one of their actions, or even get to review them once a year like an employer would. We don't get to see a lot of things they do because national security would be compromised, and most of us don't get to see many of the things we are allowed to see because we have other things to do. So you are not an employer, they do not work for you, and you are welcome for the introduction to reality.
    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    This latest change is developing in just the last couple hours. Except it to be a hot topic in the next week.
    You don't even know what they are saying yet. Seriously if it is more of the same old crap that there was not enough security and that it was a mistake then we already know all of that and it was admitted to. Really, you think news is going to come out about hidden survivors, or something actually damning about Obama? Oh noes, they gots thems lawyers before going in front of a congressional review, there must be some serious **** going on because no smrt person would ever gets thems a lawyer before going to answer questions under oath. Really, your evidence the **** is going to hit the fan is a bunch of people getting counsel before testifying before congress? Especially with how badly the reps in congress have attempted to lie and blow this whole thing way out of proportion? I have never had anything top do with benghazi but if they called me into congress to testify on it I would have about 50 lawyers and I would be to be trying to communicate across the void with johnny cochrane.

    But maybe you republican truthers will be right this time with your crazy. Maybe this time you will discover the proof you need to let mittens win the election. I am quite sure america is totally going to forgive congress for another huge waste of time on this issue because everything is now fixed like the economy and the wars we are in, and there are no real issues to discuss. No feel free to go wandering down that road again, I am sure it will work this time and not make reps seem like petty little fools who are overly focussed on pointless and irrelevant issues because a black man become president.

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    re: Threats Against Benghazi Whistleblowers Alleged [W:345/361]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This thread is about one news article. Those who call it conspiracy nonsense reinforced by that Big Bad Wolf Fox should step up and tell us what is not credible in that article. People who make those broad statements and accusations should either point out the in-credible parts of this story or stop maligning them in this instance.

    I have my answer. I've asked Helix twice and he's delined. You Tererun would turn the table on me. I didn't make the wrong assumption.
    i'll consider the fox story if you can show me a similar level of fox coverage of any embassy attack which occurred under the previous administration. there were twelve attacks during the Bush years.

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    re: Threats Against Benghazi Whistleblowers Alleged [W:345/361]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This thread is about one news article. Those who call it conspiracy nonsense reinforced by that Big Bad Wolf Fox should step up and tell us what is not credible in that article. People who make those broad statements and accusations should either point out the in-credible parts of this story or stop maligning them in this instance.

    I have my answer. I've asked Helix twice and he's delined. You Tererun would turn the table on me. I didn't make the wrong assumption.
    Fox news is home of soft core conspiracy crap. They have a terrible reputation. It does not mean they cannot publish a fact at tiomes, but that one should certainly not watch them to hear facts. You can keep saying that this article is fine, but it never addressed fox's reputation at all. If that were the way things worked then Obama would be a good presidnet the moment he mad a decision you thought was good. Does that sound silly to you, because it does to me. No, fox is a terrible and inaccurate news station that has been caught in a number of blatant lies. Oh, and you have reframed the argument from fox being unreliable to whether or not the article is unreliable. Terrible tactic which changes the argument into something you think you can defend because you know you cannot defend the reputation of faux news.

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    re: Threats Against Benghazi Whistleblowers Alleged [W:345/361]

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'll consider the fox story if you can show me a similar level of fox coverage of any embassy attack which occurred under the previous administration. there were twelve attacks during the Bush years.
    Good, get back to the original point and don't let maggie reframe the argument to something different because she cannot answer the original point.

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    re: Threats Against Benghazi Whistleblowers Alleged [W:345/361]

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    the Benghazi truther stuff is more conspiracy theory than breaking news.
    Well, lets see what Fact Check. org has on this so called Benghazi Truther Stuff.....just so there can be no Claims or denials of what those from the Left have said all Along from the get go. Obama, Clinton, and of the other Incompetent Fools from their Administration. Did you think there was away to get around being totally and utterly incompentent? A wrist slapper.....is that what some thought this was?

    Benghazi Timeline
    The long road from "spontaneous protest" to premeditated terrorist attack.....let me know when ya find can come Up with a Fox link with those referenced here.

    What follows is a timeline of events that we hope will help put the incident into perspective. We call attention in particular to these key facts:
    ◾There were no protesters at the Benghazi consulate prior to the attack, even though Obama and others repeatedly said the attackers joined an angry mob that had formed in opposition to the anti-Muslim film that had triggered protests in Egypt and elsewhere. The State Department disclosed this fact Oct. 9 — nearly a month after the attack.
    ◾Libya President Mohamed Magariaf insisted on Sept. 16 — five days after the attack — that it was a planned terrorist attack, but administration officials continued for days later to say there was no evidence of a planned attack.
    ◾Magariaf also said the idea that the attack was a “spontaneous protest that just spun out of control is completely unfounded and preposterous.” This, too, was on Sept. 16. Yet, Obama and others continued to describe the incident in exactly those terms — including during the president’s Sept. 18 appearance on the “Late Show With David Letterman.”
    ◾Matt Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, was the first administration official to call it “a terrorist attack” during a Sept. 19 congressional hearing. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did the same on Sept. 20. Even so, Obama declined opportunities to call it a terrorist attack when asked at a town hall meeting on Sept. 20 and during a taping of “The View” on Sept. 24.

    FactCheck.org : Benghazi Timeline

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    re: Threats Against Benghazi Whistleblowers Alleged [W:345/361]

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Good, get back to the original point and don't let maggie reframe the argument to something different because she cannot answer the original point.
    i like Maggie. i don't like partisan entertainment networks exploiting a tragedy.

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    re: Threats Against Benghazi Whistleblowers Alleged [W:345/361]

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Fox news is home of soft core conspiracy crap. They have a terrible reputation. It does not mean they cannot publish a fact at tiomes, but that one should certainly not watch them to hear facts. You can keep saying that this article is fine, but it never addressed fox's reputation at all. If that were the way things worked then Obama would be a good presidnet the moment he mad a decision you thought was good. Does that sound silly to you, because it does to me. No, fox is a terrible and inaccurate news station that has been caught in a number of blatant lies. Oh, and you have reframed the argument from fox being unreliable to whether or not the article is unreliable. Terrible tactic which changes the argument into something you think you can defend because you know you cannot defend the reputation of faux news.
    You don't trust Fox. Got it. Who do you trust?

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    re: Threats Against Benghazi Whistleblowers Alleged [W:345/361]

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'll consider the fox story if you can show me a similar level of fox coverage of any embassy attack which occurred under the previous administration. there were twelve attacks during the Bush years.
    Got any details for us about those coverups?

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    re: Threats Against Benghazi Whistleblowers Alleged [W:345/361]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, lets see what Fact Check. org has on this so called Benghazi Truther Stuff.....just so there can be no Claims or denials of what those from the Left have said all Along from the get go. Obama, Clinton, and of the other Incompetent Fools from their Administration. Did you think there was away to get around being totally and utterly incompentent? A wrist slapper.....is that what some thought this was?

    Benghazi Timeline
    The long road from "spontaneous protest" to premeditated terrorist attack.....let me know when ya find can come Up with a Fox link with those referenced here.

    What follows is a timeline of events that we hope will help put the incident into perspective. We call attention in particular to these key facts:
    ◾There were no protesters at the Benghazi consulate prior to the attack, even though Obama and others repeatedly said the attackers joined an angry mob that had formed in opposition to the anti-Muslim film that had triggered protests in Egypt and elsewhere. The State Department disclosed this fact Oct. 9 — nearly a month after the attack.
    ◾Libya President Mohamed Magariaf insisted on Sept. 16 — five days after the attack — that it was a planned terrorist attack, but administration officials continued for days later to say there was no evidence of a planned attack.
    ◾Magariaf also said the idea that the attack was a “spontaneous protest that just spun out of control is completely unfounded and preposterous.” This, too, was on Sept. 16. Yet, Obama and others continued to describe the incident in exactly those terms — including during the president’s Sept. 18 appearance on the “Late Show With David Letterman.”
    ◾Matt Olsen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center, was the first administration official to call it “a terrorist attack” during a Sept. 19 congressional hearing. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did the same on Sept. 20. Even so, Obama declined opportunities to call it a terrorist attack when asked at a town hall meeting on Sept. 20 and during a taping of “The View” on Sept. 24.

    FactCheck.org : Benghazi Timeline
    conspiracy theories often rely heavily on the initial confusion and misreporting after a tragedy. i simply don't believe that the administration got together and said, "well, we know what really happened, and we didn't send in help on purpose, so let's blame it on a movie; oh, whoops, we got caught. we would have gotten away with it, too, if it wasn't for you meddling fox kids." does this really sound like a credible theory to you?

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    re: Threats Against Benghazi Whistleblowers Alleged [W:345/361]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    But what exactly are they blowing the whistle on ?.............
    Hard to say, the executive branch has not cooperated with releasing information. Sort of like the guns to mexico thing, silence and denial. Time will tell.
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