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Benghazi Bombshell Drops On Obama, Hillary

Quik said:
Irrelevant. So what if Gaddafi was bombing Al Qaeda terrorists? What does that have to do with us involving ourselves in yet another Middle Eastern war with no benefit to our country?
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I agree, and said we shouldn't join in. But Obama gave into EU whining.
 
Quik said:
Why did they need more security? Why wasn't Benghazi secure?

Because we destroyed their central government and police forces, and allowed Al Qaeda to roam freely
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If that was the case then all Americans there, as with the British and the Red Cross, should have been removed. Was Hillary not informed that these people were pulled out as well?
 
I do not understand what it is that detractors think they'll find in all this Benghazi stuff. Do they really expect to find evidence of the president cackling like Mr. Burns, declaring that he's refusing to send more people to the consulate in the hopes that everyone will die? Do they expect to find Clinton doing the same? Are they really so far removed from the rest of the human race that they think that a Democratic administration is composed of cartoon villains who sit around all day laughing about kicking puppies?

CanadaJohn said:
I believe this to be true - that doesn't, however, obscure the facts around Obama and his administration slow walking the truth and flat out lying in order to save his Presidency.
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Save his presidency from what? From there not being room in a budget to prioritize one embassy over others? From terrorists committing terrorism and us not having a stranglehold on every square inch of the world to stop every psycho from doing every psycho thing?
 
roughdraft274 said:
I've already pointed out that the original source that FoxNation is twisting, says inside the same article that more than a million cables come in every year, and all of them bear her signature, regardless of if she actually signed them. I can understand if you have a problem with this practice of putting her signature on everything even if she's never seen it, because it is an odd practice, although I'm sure it's a common practice, but you can't just ignore it outright as you and foxnation and the republicans are trying to do.

If you had a reason not to believe that response then I'd be interested to hear it, but you do actually have to address it before you can just assume she lied, or was wrong, as you have in this post.
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perhaps Hillary should have put a stop to everyone using her signature. Wouldn't that have been the smart thing to do?

It means her signature has no value whatsoever, and she freely admits it on order to get out of a scrape.
 
Let me try the supportive "Sarah Palin-like" response. Boy, the right wing nut-bags must really feel threatened by this woman as displayed in their hateful posts.
 
Paschendale said:
I do not understand what it is that detractors think they'll find in all this Benghazi stuff. Do they really expect to find evidence of the president cackling like Mr. Burns, declaring that he's refusing to send more people to the consulate in the hopes that everyone will die? Do they expect to find Clinton doing the same? Are they really so far removed from the rest of the human race that they think that a Democratic administration is composed of cartoon villains who sit around all day laughing about kicking puppies?



Save his presidency from what? From there not being room in a budget to prioritize one embassy over others? From terrorists committing terrorism and us not having a stranglehold on every square inch of the world to stop every psycho from doing every psycho thing?
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Clearly, an oversight review of what happened in Benghazi, including the deaths of four brave Americans, is of little interest or benefit to you and your like, however, many in America would still like to get to the bottom of both the deaths and the aftermath.

Aren't you even the slightest bit interested in what has happened since this incident since both your President and Secretary of State adamantly claimed that the perpetrators of these murders would be brought to American justice swiftly and severely?
 
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Paschendale said:
Save his presidency from what? From there not being room in a budget to prioritize one embassy over others? From terrorists committing terrorism and us not having a stranglehold on every square inch of the world to stop every psycho from doing every psycho thing?
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Every square inch of the world???

The Ambassador asked for help. He was ignored and he was murdered. There were dangers signs everywhere in Benghazi, but not in "every square inch of the world".

Is it impossible for leftists to complete a sentence without hyperbole?
 
Paschendale said:
I do not understand what it is that detractors think they'll find in all this Benghazi stuff. Do they really expect to find evidence of the president cackling like Mr. Burns, declaring that he's refusing to send more people to the consulate in the hopes that everyone will die? Do they expect to find Clinton doing the same? Are they really so far removed from the rest of the human race that they think that a Democratic administration is composed of cartoon villains who sit around all day laughing about kicking puppies?

Save his presidency from what? From there not being room in a budget to prioritize one embassy over others? From terrorists committing terrorism and us not having a stranglehold on every square inch of the world to stop every psycho from doing every psycho thing?
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How does this change the fact that Hillary Knew the Brits Ambassador had an attempted assassination attempt on him. Then later the Italion's Ambassador. That other nations pulled their Ambassadors?

What do you think if Team Obama on the night of the Benghazi Attack.....who had Stevens meeting with the Turks Envoy Right before the battle.....got caught in a discovery of shipping Weapons out of Libya to Turkey.....to get them to the Syrian Rebels. That Obama publicly stated he would not give weapons to?????

What do you think would have took place? Getting caught? Not that we did.....but what then?
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Luuuuucy, you has some esplainin to do. This Benghazi cover up is falling apart and the lies are bubbling to the surface.


" An April 2012 State Department cable bearing Secretary Hillary Clinton’s signature acknowledged then-Ambassador Cretz’s formal request for additional security assets but ordered the withdrawal of security elements to proceed as planned.
But on January 23, 2013 Secretary Clinton testified that security requests had not been brought to her attention."


Read more: Benghazi Bombshell Drops On Obama, Hillary | Benghazi Attacks | Fox Nation
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Benghazi Review Panel Member: Fox-Promoted GOP Claims Against Clinton Are "Total Bull****" | Blog | Media Matters for America

A member of the independent panel that reviewed the September attack on a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya is calling attempts by Fox News and congressional Republicans to blame Hillary Clinton for the deaths of U.S. personnel "total bull****."

Fox News has been promoting Republican attacks blaming Hillary Clinton for security cutbacks prior to the September 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya. But Richard Shinnick, a member of the five-person State Department Accountability Review Board that reviewed the Benghazi attacks last fall, says such claims are unfounded.

"Hillary Clinton was never in the loop for that," said Shinnick, a former 27-year foreign services officer. "It just doesn't make any sense to anybody who understands the State Department. They all know that the Secretary of State was never in that chain of responding to Benghazi, it just wasn't so."

On April 25, the Republican chairmen of five House committees released a report that stated Clinton's congressional testimony that she was unaware of requests for additional security at the Benghazi compound was false, citing a cable signed by Clinton that responded to one such request by calling for security cuts. Fox News, which has frequently harped on the Benghazi attack to criticize the Obama administration, quickly promoted the GOP attacks, calling them a "Benghazi Bombshell."

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What's the problem? All we have to do is insure than more evil movies about Islam make to you tube and the Muslim wolrld will love us. No more embassies will be damaged.
 
Quik said:
The only "bombshell" about Benghazi that dumb Americans are too stupid to understand is that if we didn't bomb Libya in the first place there wouldn't have been a Benghazi incident.
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No. What we're too stupid to realize is that we shouldn't be wasting our time trying to make our enemies like us, or being involved with them diplomatically. No embassy, no tragedy.
 
Yes, and keep those evil you tube movie makers in jail...of course, if that was all a lie then maybe we cannot trust Hillary's defenders...just sayin'.
 
Grant said:
Every square inch of the world???

The Ambassador asked for help. He was ignored and he was murdered. There were dangers signs everywhere in Benghazi, but not in "every square inch of the world".

Is it impossible for leftists to complete a sentence without hyperbole?
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He had a dangerous job. He knew he had a dangerous job. He wants more security and she said no. She gets asked for more security a lot.

Soldiers want better guns and armor they don't get. Old people want free prescriptions. Thus isn't a scandal it is just a tragedy.
 
roughdraft274 said:
From the real source of the story, The Hill:



So, pretty much another non-issue if I understand everything correctly.
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>"Clinton testified that the more than 1 million cables that come to the State Department from the field every year are addressed to her and those that go out from Foggy Bottom bear her signature, regardless of who wrote them."<

Isn't there some kind of law when you forge someones signature it's a criminal act ?
 
On active duty dont you have to sign By Direction: when you are signing for someone else? But you know, a million cabels is quite a few.
APACHERAT said:
>"Clinton testified that the more than 1 million cables that come to the State Department from the field every year are addressed to her and those that go out from Foggy Bottom bear her signature, regardless of who wrote them."<

Isn't there some kind of law when you forge someones signature it's a criminal act ?
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mak2 said:
On active duty dont you have to sign By Direction: when you are signing for someone else? But you know, a million cabels is quite a few.
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I have plenty of correspondence from active duty where the signature was not even by someone else . . . it was a stamp.
 
captainawesome said:
He had a dangerous job. He knew he had a dangerous job. He wants more security and she said no. She gets asked for more security a lot.

Soldiers want better guns and armor they don't get. Old people want free prescriptions. Thus isn't a scandal it is just a tragedy.
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Yeah but they also kept decreasing security. Even after the first attack upon the Consulate back in March of 2012.
 
APACHERAT said:
>"Clinton testified that the more than 1 million cables that come to the State Department from the field every year are addressed to her and those that go out from Foggy Bottom bear her signature, regardless of who wrote them."<

Isn't there some kind of law when you forge someones signature it's a criminal act ?
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Yeah but I doubt she can skip pass the one that said.....Libya Consulate.....Hole Blown thru Iron gates. Attackers say they will return. ;)
 
It has been 30 years ago but it seems to me if someone signed something that the authority came from the CO you singed it By Direction of the Commanding officer ______________________ then you sign it. But really, no one person could sign or read a million emails.
 
pbrauer said:
Its good to know you can't show it's wrong.
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Seems Hot Air and CBS did.

CBS News ticks down the three major findings of House Republicans' interim report (numerals mine):

(1) The committees' Republicans conclude that Clinton approved security reductions at the consulate, pointing to evidence such as an April 2012 State Department cable bearing her signature. The cable was a formal request from then-U.S. Ambassador to Libya Gene Cretz for more security. In her testimony before Congress in January, Clinton said, "With specific security requests they didn't come to me. I had no knowledge of them."

(2) The interim report also charges that White House and senior State Department officials attempted to protect the State Department from criticism by altering accurate talking points drafted by the intelligence community. For instance, the report says that, after a Sept. 15, 2012 meeting, administration officials removed references to the likely participation of Islamic extremists.

(3) The report also contradicts administration claims that the talking points were changed to protect classified information. None of the email exchanges reviewed ever mentioned a concern about classified information, according to the report.
 
mak2 said:
On active duty dont you have to sign By Direction: when you are signing for someone else? But you know, a million cabels is quite a few.
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Not ever being a pencil pusher I had to look it up.

When signing another persons signature right below the signature you forged you add in UPPER CASE the initials of the persons name your signing for and then in lower case you type your initials.
Respectfully,

ROBERT R. SMITH

RRS/jwc

Notice the initals RRS is for the signer and jwc in lower case is the preparer.
 
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