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    Re: Benghazi Bombshell Drops On Obama, Hillary

    Why did they need more security? Why wasn't Benghazi secure?

    Because we destroyed their central government and police forces, and allowed Al Qaeda to roam freely

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    Re: Benghazi Bombshell Drops On Obama, Hillary

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Luuuuucy, you has some esplainin to do. This Benghazi cover up is falling apart and the lies are bubbling to the surface.


    " An April 2012 State Department cable bearing Secretary Hillary Clinton’s signature acknowledged then-Ambassador Cretz’s formal request for additional security assets but ordered the withdrawal of security elements to proceed as planned.
    But on January 23, 2013 Secretary Clinton testified that security requests had not been brought to her attention."


    Read more: Benghazi Bombshell Drops On Obama, Hillary | Benghazi Attacks | Fox Nation
    From the real source of the story, The Hill:

    “Repeated requests for additional security were denied at the highest levels of the State Department,” it said. “For example, an April 2012 State Department cable bearing Secretary Hillary Clinton’s signature acknowledged then-Ambassador [Gene] Cretz’s formal request for additional security assets but ordered the withdrawal of security elements to proceed as planned.”

    Clinton testified that the more than 1 million cables that come to the State Department from the field every year are addressed to her and those that go out from Foggy Bottom bear her signature, regardless of who wrote them.

    Read more: GOP Benghazi report blames Clinton - The Hill's Global Affairs
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    So, pretty much another non-issue if I understand everything correctly.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Benghazi Bombshell Drops On Obama, Hillary

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Luuuuucy, you has some esplainin to do. This Benghazi cover up is falling apart and the lies are bubbling to the surface.


    " An April 2012 State Department cable bearing Secretary Hillary Clinton’s signature acknowledged then-Ambassador Cretz’s formal request for additional security assets but ordered the withdrawal of security elements to proceed as planned.
    But on January 23, 2013 Secretary Clinton testified that security requests had not been brought to her attention."


    Read more: Benghazi Bombshell Drops On Obama, Hillary | Benghazi Attacks | Fox Nation


    a post at FOXNATION, a user content contribution site, says that there is a "bomb shell" re: Benghazi


    LOL, why is this not on the FRONT PAGE of FOXNEWS or any other right wing tabloid??

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    Re: Benghazi Bombshell Drops On Obama, Hillary

    O.

    Is this still a thing?

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    Re: Benghazi Bombshell Drops On Obama, Hillary

    Another Fauxrage. whowuddathunkit?
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    Re: Benghazi Bombshell Drops On Obama, Hillary

    Fox and it minions believes cables bearing the name of the Sec of State means they were "signed" by the SoS.

    Reports Undermine Fox's New Clinton Smear Over Benghazi | Blog | Media Matters for America
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    Re: Benghazi Bombshell Drops On Obama, Hillary

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    From the real source of the story, The Hill:



    So, pretty much another non-issue if I understand everything correctly.
    Lets see if we can bring some more clarity to the issue.

    CBS News ticks down the three major findings of House Republicans' interim report (numerals mine):

    (1) The committees' Republicans conclude that Clinton approved security reductions at the consulate, pointing to evidence such as an April 2012 State Department cable bearing her signature. The cable was a formal request from then-U.S. Ambassador to Libya Gene Cretz for more security. In her testimony before Congress in January, Clinton said, "With specific security requests they didn't come to me. I had no knowledge of them."

    (2) The interim report also charges that White House and senior State Department officials attempted to protect the State Department from criticism by altering accurate talking points drafted by the intelligence community. For instance, the report says that, after a Sept. 15, 2012 meeting, administration officials removed references to the likely participation of Islamic extremists.

    (3) The report also contradicts administration claims that the talking points were changed to protect classified information. None of the email exchanges reviewed ever mentioned a concern about classified information, according to the report.

    The first item is the most damning, but let's work from the bottom up. Democrats and the White House have attempted hide behind "national security" and "classified information" to block the public from hearing details about what exactly happened on September 11, 2012. They used the same excuse to retool Susan Rice's ludicrous talking points before she appeared on five Sunday morning shows, spreading misinformation about the nature of the terrorist attack at every step. Internal documents obtained by House investigators also reveal that the administration's contemporaneous deliberations didn't mention these concerns; instead, they lay a trail of bread crumbs down the path of political ass-covering. The original talking points assembled by the intelligence community were accurate; they were altered by face-saving officials at State. And if they were so worried about sensitive information and documents getting into the wrong hands, why did they allow the compound to remain unsecured for weeks? Finally, Secretary Clinton wasn't truthful -- or at least wasn't accurate -- when she asserted that none of the requests for increased security measures in Benghazi reached her level.

    Cretz's successor, Chris Stevens, pleaded for more resources, too, including on the day of his murder. It's important to remember that the administration didn't merely deny "repeated" appeals for more protection, they actually reduced our security footprint on the ground, for reasons that remain a mystery. We still don't know why the consulate's protection was so breathtakingly insufficient (despite the administration's insulting suggestions to the contrary). The report -- which remains incomplete -- also does not explain why numerous urgent requests for immediate help went unheeded during the hours-long raid itself. We still don't know where the President of the United States was during the bloodbath, nor is there an explanation for why zero forces or assets were deployed to help our people. Men died because of this unjustifiable inaction. Perhaps the "multiple" new whistle-blowers can help answer some of these critical, unanswered inquiries. People like Patricia Smith and Charlie Woods deserve the truth.....snip~

    Benghazi Report: Hillary Approved Reduced Security Measures, Contradicting Previous Testimony - Guy Benson

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    Re: Benghazi Bombshell Drops On Obama, Hillary

    What a shocker, turns out to not be the bombshell that Fox Nation thinks it is.
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    Re: Benghazi Bombshell Drops On Obama, Hillary

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Dumb non-Americans are too stupid to understand that if Gaddafi had not bombed his own people, the EU would not have dragged the US into the war.
    Actually

    Q: Do you see any evidence that he [Gaddafi] actually has fired on his own people from the air? There were reports of it, but do you have independent confirmation? If so, to what extent?

    SEC. GATES: We’ve seen the press reports, but we have no confirmation of that.

    ADM. MULLEN: That’s correct. We’ve seen no confirmation whatsoever.

    Source: Defense.gov News Transcript: DOD News Briefing with Secretary Gates and Adm. Mullen from the Pentagon

    Look here as well: Russia Intel Satelite shows Gaddafi Did NOT Attack His People - YouTube

    And this:

    Human rights organisations have cast doubt on claims of mass rape and other abuses perpetrated by forces loyal to Colonel Muammar Gaddafi, which have been widely used to justify Nato's war in Libya.

    Nato leaders, opposition groups and the media have produced a stream of stories since the start of the insurrection on 15 February, claiming the Gaddafi regime has ordered mass rapes, used foreign mercenaries and employed helicopters against civilian protesters.

    An investigation by Amnesty International has failed to find evidence for these human rights violations and in many cases has discredited or cast doubt on them. It also found indications that on several occasions the rebels in Benghazi appeared to have knowingly made false claims or manufactured evidence.

    Source: Amnesty questions claim that Gaddafi ordered rape as weapon of war - Africa - World - The Independent

    I don't like Gaddafi, but if we are gonna slam him on something, let's slam him on things that are the truth such as his human rights abuses (Factbox: Gaddafi rule marked by abuses, rights groups say | Reuters)
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    Re: Benghazi Bombshell Drops On Obama, Hillary

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Lets see if we can bring some more clarity to the issue.

    CBS News ticks down the three major findings of House Republicans' interim report (numerals mine):

    (1) The committees' Republicans conclude that Clinton approved security reductions at the consulate, pointing to evidence such as an April 2012 State Department cable bearing her signature. The cable was a formal request from then-U.S. Ambassador to Libya Gene Cretz for more security. In her testimony before Congress in January, Clinton said, "With specific security requests they didn't come to me. I had no knowledge of them."
    I've already pointed out that the original source that FoxNation is twisting, says inside the same article that more than a million cables come in every year, and all of them bear her signature, regardless of if she actually signed them. I can understand if you have a problem with this practice of putting her signature on everything even if she's never seen it, because it is an odd practice, although I'm sure it's a common practice, but you can't just ignore it outright as you and foxnation and the republicans are trying to do.

    If you had a reason not to believe that response then I'd be interested to hear it, but you do actually have to address it before you can just assume she lied, or was wrong, as you have in this post.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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