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    Re: Tamerlan Tsarnaev got Mass. welfare benefits!

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    That's probably unconstitutional though.
    I don't think it should be. If someone is on welfare I think they should have virtually no privacy. The government should be able to monitor their online usage, their communications (text, phone, etc), their life habits (drug use, prostitution, drug screens) and active efforts to better themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    So you're suddenly advocating that let's just say for example a family applies for Food Stamps because they need it, the government should be allowed to check their internet history?

    So suddenly a backround check for Welfare will stop terrorism...

    But a back round check for firearms won't stop mass killers...

    Ah **** it.

    I'm fine with background checks for firearm purchases, I think people who have committed violent crimes shouldn't be allowed to own guns and if such a thing shows up on a background check it should be illegal for someone to sell them a firearm or for the person to register the weapon, but I don't really see how that's relevant to the topic.

    If you receive free aid or money from the government the government should be allowed to monitor how you spend that money.
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    Re: Tamerlan Tsarnaev got Mass. welfare benefits!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Everyone with a brain knows that welfare is the biggest fleecing of America and now we learn the we are financially supporting people that are here to do us harm. I am sure that little boy's familly were happy to learn about government supported terrorism.
    I don't really see how this is relevant to welfare or to the bombing.

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    Re: Tamerlan Tsarnaev got Mass. welfare benefits!

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I don't think it should be. If someone is on welfare I think they should have virtually no privacy. The government should be able to monitor their online usage, their communications (text, phone, etc), their life habits (drug use, prostitution, drug screens) and active efforts to better themselves.
    To set up a Bureaucracy capable of doing so would cost more than the Welfare itself.

    What you're proposing is undoable...

    Because you received Federal Aid for college, do you think you should be subjected to such an invasion of privacy?

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    Re: Tamerlan Tsarnaev got Mass. welfare benefits!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    this proves beyond a doubt that welfare creates terrorists.

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    but seriously is there really any point?
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    Re: Tamerlan Tsarnaev got Mass. welfare benefits!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    To set up a Bureaucracy capable of doing so would cost more than the Welfare itself.

    What you're proposing is undoable...

    Because you received Federal Aid for college, do you think you should be subjected to such an invasion of privacy?
    I don't necessarily think the cost would be too unbearable considering violators would lose welfare and the system hopefully would not be wasteful and bloated.

    And yes, I should be subjected to such an "invasion of privacy" and currently I am. Every year I file FAFSA, I give another government agency my tax info, financial info, enrollment status, living status, marital/family status and many other things. Back when I was an undergrad and considered a dependent under my parents my parents also had to submit info. When I received PELL grant money we had to further submit info like physical copies of W2 forms and whatnot as further verification. I had to do the extended verification every year that I received PELL money and I don't think that was unreasonable.

    If I am receiving federal aid for college I think it's completely reasonable for the government to know my financial info, they should be allowed to further force me to verify my info with third parties to ensure that I'm not cheating the system and I'm fine with being audited to ensure that funds go to the appropriate place (in this case, disbursed to the school directly to fund tuition). The school and financial aid offices also had certain responsibilities and regulations to keep their status as an approved institution for receiving aid. If me, or others, are receiving money at no cost I don't think it's unreasonable to be held accountable before the government, taxpayers, and others.

    Why should we just give money away? Why shouldn't we enhance measures to prevent taxpayer money via welfare from going towards irresponsible or illegal things? Why can't we ensure that they aren't using illegal drugs? Why not also make sure that the person is actively perusing stable income so that one day they can be off welfare or off it sooner? I don't see any of these things as unreasonable. And if the government is funding a service (like a phone or internet connection) as they payer and as a taxpayer funded benefit I think the government should be allowed access to the users information shared or used on those networks.
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    Re: Tamerlan Tsarnaev got Mass. welfare benefits!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Everyone with a brain knows that welfare is the biggest fleecing of America and now we learn the we are financially supporting people that are here to do us harm. I am sure that little boy's familly were happy to learn about government supported terrorism.
    Wow - use terror for supporting your own agenda much?
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    Re: Tamerlan Tsarnaev got Mass. welfare benefits!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Everyone with a brain knows that welfare is the biggest fleecing of America and now we learn the we are financially supporting people that are here to do us harm. I am sure that little boy's familly were happy to learn about government supported terrorism.
    ................What?

    Now as a human being I'm sure you have some cognitive skills. So I must ask, do you honestly think that the government was deliberately funding terrorists? From all of your rhetoric it seems that is what you would have us believe .
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    Re: Tamerlan Tsarnaev got Mass. welfare benefits!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I don't really see how this is relevant to welfare or to the bombing.
    WOW, I mean just wow

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    Re: Tamerlan Tsarnaev got Mass. welfare benefits!

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    ................What?

    Now as a human being I'm sure you have some cognitive skills. So I must ask, do you honestly think that the government was deliberately funding terrorists? From all of your rhetoric it seems that is what you would have us believe .
    They obviously weren't doing their jobs here, progressives support terrorism, you should be happy

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    Re: Tamerlan Tsarnaev got Mass. welfare benefits!

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    this proves beyond a doubt that welfare creates terrorists.

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    but seriously is there really any point?
    No, but it does proves liberals support programs that fund them

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