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    Re: Catherine, Herbert Schaible's Second Child Dies After Parents Use Prayer, No Medi

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Failing to seek medical care is objectively harmful to a child. You are just plain, provably wrong. The child's odds of survival are vastly higher when medical attention is received. This isn't some question of opinion here, it is absolutely, 100% provable that this is the case.
    Isn't it disgusting to watch what lengths the religious will go to in order to rationalize the horrible acts of other theists?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Catherine, Herbert Schaible's Second Child Dies After Parents Use Prayer, No Medi

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Failing to seek medical care is objectively harmful to a child. You are just plain, provably wrong. The child's odds of survival are vastly higher when medical attention is received. This isn't some question of opinion here, it is absolutely, 100% provable that this is the case.
    Not if you believe God will provide.

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    Re: Catherine, Herbert Schaible's Second Child Dies After Parents Use Prayer, No Medi

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Isn't it disgusting to watch what lengths the religious will go to in order to rationalize the horrible acts of other theists?
    Im not religious.

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    Re: Catherine, Herbert Schaible's Second Child Dies After Parents Use Prayer, No Medi

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Not if you believe God will provide.
    Wrong. Belief does not determine reality. Reality is that the child is better off with the doctor.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Catherine, Herbert Schaible's Second Child Dies After Parents Use Prayer, No Medi

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Wrong. Belief does not determine reality. Reality is that the child is better off with the doctor.
    Unless you believe that God does determine reality.

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    Re: Catherine, Herbert Schaible's Second Child Dies After Parents Use Prayer, No Medi

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Unless you believe that God does determine reality.
    God has determined that doctors improve your chance to live. This is fact.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Catherine, Herbert Schaible's Second Child Dies After Parents Use Prayer, No Medi

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    God has determined that doctors improve your chance to live. This is fact.
    That's ridiculous given God doesn't exist. Are we going to base our understanding of science on God now? You should be locked up and sterilized for having that opinion.

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