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    freedumb of religion.

    If I remember what I read a few years back correctly, mom can refuse to seek medical treatment even if the child dies as long as she was truly convinced God would save the child. In other words, unwavering religious belief trumps common sense.

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    Re: Catherine, Herbert Schaible's Second Child Dies After Parents Use Prayer, No Medi

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    An adult does make decisions about medical treatment for themselves.
    Excellent, I'm glad you agree it's wrong to decide someone else gets to die for lack of medical attention.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Catherine, Herbert Schaible's Second Child Dies After Parents Use Prayer, No Medi

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Excellent, I'm glad you agree it's wrong to decide someone else gets to die for lack of medical attention.
    I dont agree.

    Bottom line is murder if the unflawful killing of another person. Killing is an active action. Letting someone die is a passive action. A person is not a murderer for not feeding, sheltering, or clothing a homeless person. Nor are they a murderer for not treating them medically.

    And as to the topic, the parents did not kill their child. Nature did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I dont agree.

    Bottom line is murder if the unflawful killing of another person. Killing is an active action. Letting someone die is a passive action. A person is not a murderer for not feeding, sheltering, or clothing a homeless person. Nor are they a murderer for not treating them medically.

    And as to the topic, the parents did not kill their child. Nature did.
    It is unlawful to deny your child medical attention. They were convicted of this very thing with the first child that died.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Catherine, Herbert Schaible's Second Child Dies After Parents Use Prayer, No Medi

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    I hope that these parents pay for their phony religious beliefs. I mean, how can you not take your child to the doctor for medical treatment?
    This is their second death.



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    Catherine, Herbert Schaible's Second Child Dies After Parents Use Prayer, No Medicine

    PHILADELPHIA (AP) — A couple serving probation for the 2009 death of their toddler after they turned to prayer instead of a doctor could face new charges now that another son has died.
    Herbert and Catherine Schaible belong to a fundamentalist Christian church that believes in faith healing. They lost their 8-month-old son, Brandon, last week after he suffered from diarrhea and breathing problems for at least a week, and stopped eating. Four years ago, another son died from bacterial pneumonia.
    Prosecutors said Tuesday that a decision on charges will be made after they get the results of an autopsy.
    Catherine Schaible's attorney, Mythri Jayaraman, cautioned against a rush to judgment, and said the couple are good parents deeply distraught over the loss of another child.
    OH Bull.. There is a great deal doctors can do to stop gastroenteritis in an infant.

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    Since I don't believe in God - I certainly do question such beliefs . . . I see it as nothing but child abuse - and people who follow such crap are psychotic imbeciles.

    Nor do I care who is offended - if someone did this exact same thing without the faux religious faith then they'd be tossed in the clink for child neglect and endangerment . .. inserting a belief in a God (who apparently doesn't want you to care for your kids) doesn't amount to dick.

    What kind of idiots back them up, too - "oh it's ok that they let their child starve to death - they did it for God!" . . . bull**** - no one's religious beliefs should enable them to MURDER someone. I certainly can't kill someone under some notion that God wanted me to!! What's next from some of you? "Oh - its ok, they only burned their daughter to death according to their Holy Book" . . . What the Hell?

    So - those of you who have been sucked into their retardation - get the **** out of the sinkhole . . . here, I'll throw you a morality rope
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    Re: Catherine, Herbert Schaible's Second Child Dies After Parents Use Prayer, No Medi

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It is unlawful to deny your child medical attention. They were convicted of this very thing with the first child that died.
    Were they convicted of murder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Since I don't believe in God - I certainly do question such beliefs . . . I see it as nothing but child abuse - and people who follow such crap are psychotic imbeciles.

    Nor do I care who is offended - if someone did this exact same thing without the faux religious faith then they'd be tossed in the clink for child neglect and endangerment . .. inserting a belief in a God (who apparently doesn't want you to care for your kids) doesn't amount to dick.

    What kind of idiots back them up, too - "oh it's ok that they let their child starve to death - they did it for God!" . . . bull**** - no one's religious beliefs should enable them to MURDER someone. I certainly can't kill someone under some notion that God wanted me to!! What's next from some of you? "Oh - its ok, they only burned their daughter to death according to their Holy Book" . . . What the Hell?

    So - those of you who have been sucked into their retardation - get the **** out of the sinkhole . . . here, I'll throw you a morality rope
    Youve convinced me with your insults.

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    Re: Catherine, Herbert Schaible's Second Child Dies After Parents Use Prayer, No Medi

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Were they convicted of murder?
    No, but as a condition of their parole, they were to take their children for proper medical care regularly and to refrain from faith healing. They failed in that. Shoot them in the head.
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    Re: Catherine, Herbert Schaible's Second Child Dies After Parents Use Prayer, No Medi

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Youve convinced me with your insults.
    We're just waiting for you to come up with some good reasons besides "I believe in an imaginary friend".
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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