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    Re: Nestle CEO Says Water Is Food That Should Be Privatized

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I can't make the same reach you are about Nestle's CEO or Nestle as a company and their objectives. I'm trying to find a position I can agree with. If the water is being controlled and it requires payment, then in theory it can be shut off. Whether it is a government entity or a private company, the water is still off without payment. Are you advocating that all water should be free? Just some of it? None of it? I can't tell.
    Where I live, we can have a well. I think that is the way it should be. Government run, at least it's done at or near cost and they work with you if you have trouble for a while. Business run, nobody would have a chance. The moment you can't pay, they shut you off. It's very dangerous. I can grow food if I need to supplement my ability to eat, but I can't get to the water if some company prevents me from having a well because it bought the water rights. Plus, the environmentalists and the elites in this world have said that the number of people the earth can sustain long term is only 500 billion. I don't like the implications of that.... especially if they own all water rights.

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    Re: Nestle CEO Says Water Is Food That Should Be Privatized

    This is ridiculous! Nestlé should not be able to privatize water. They didn't create the water, did they? It's not theirs! Resources like water should be distributed among the people.

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    Nestle CEO Says Water Is Food That Should Be Privatized

    Quote Originally Posted by Tetelestai View Post
    Where I live, we can have a well. I think that is the way it should be. Government run, at least it's done at or near cost and they work with you if you have trouble for a while. Business run, nobody would have a chance. The moment you can't pay, they shut you off. It's very dangerous. I can grow food if I need to supplement my ability to eat, but I can't get to the water if some company prevents me from having a well because it bought the water rights. Plus, the environmentalists and the elites in this world have said that the number of people the earth can sustain long term is only 500 billion. I don't like the implications of that.... especially if they own all water rights.
    You are assuming your own worst scenario for private water companies and have assumed the best scenario for municipal water companies. At some point both should be able to shut off your water if you don't pay your bills over a long enough period. Government can mandate that water can't be shut off until X months have passed without payment whether private or municipal.

    Same conditions in at least many northern states when it comes to shutting off heat during the winter.

    Municipalities can force you on to municipal water/sewer and can keep you from having your own well. If I lived closer to the street, they would have done the same to me. No option.

    See my point?
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    Re: Nestle CEO Says Water Is Food That Should Be Privatized

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    You are assuming your own worst scenario for private water companies and have assumed the best scenario for municipal water companies. At some point both should be able to shut off your water if you don't pay your bills over a long enough period. Government can mandate that water can't be shut off until X months have passed without payment whether private or municipal.

    Same conditions in at least many northern states when it comes to shutting off heat during the winter.

    Municipalities can force you on to municipal water/sewer and can keep you from having your own well. If I lived closer to the street, they would have done the same to me. No option.

    See my point?
    Nestle charges $1.25 or more for 20 ounces of filtered municipal water.

    The government charges .00001 that amount.

    The choice is clear.

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    Re: Nestle CEO Says Water Is Food That Should Be Privatized

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    You are assuming your own worst scenario for private water companies and have assumed the best scenario for municipal water companies. At some point both should be able to shut off your water if you don't pay your bills over a long enough period. Government can mandate that water can't be shut off until X months have passed without payment whether private or municipal.

    Same conditions in at least many northern states when it comes to shutting off heat during the winter.

    Municipalities can force you on to municipal water/sewer and can keep you from having your own well. If I lived closer to the street, they would have done the same to me. No option.

    See my point?



    Realistically, private water will result in higher payments, high startup and restart fees, and an endless plethora of "charges"............... So, what's the upside again?.........................

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    Re: Nestle CEO Says Water Is Food That Should Be Privatized

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    You are assuming your own worst scenario for private water companies and have assumed the best scenario for municipal water companies. At some point both should be able to shut off your water if you don't pay your bills over a long enough period. Government can mandate that water can't be shut off until X months have passed without payment whether private or municipal.

    Same conditions in at least many northern states when it comes to shutting off heat during the winter.

    Municipalities can force you on to municipal water/sewer and can keep you from having your own well. If I lived closer to the street, they would have done the same to me. No option.

    See my point?
    Which is why I believe we should be able to use well water as opposed to municipal. I really only made an exclusion for cities because wells are impractical. You did not address the cost though. Have you looked at the price of bottled water? What do you think they would do if they owned all the water rights? At least with municipalities, if they made it too expensive, you could vote the idiots out of office and put someone else in charge. You can't do that with a corporation. They would just tell you to go dehydrate to death.

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    Nestle CEO Says Water Is Food That Should Be Privatized

    Quote Originally Posted by Tetelestai View Post
    Which is why I believe we should be able to use well water as opposed to municipal. I really only made an exclusion for cities because wells are impractical. You did not address the cost though. Have you looked at the price of bottled water? What do you think they would do if they owned all the water rights? At least with municipalities, if they made it too expensive, you could vote the idiots out of office and put someone else in charge. You can't do that with a corporation. They would just tell you to go dehydrate to death.
    You didn't answer the question. As for cost, you and others are comparing everything to the price of bottled water. Privately run water systems don't bottle water and you assume this because that is one product that Nestlé sells. Do you really make the reach that people are going to fill their bathtubs with bottled water. Have a bit of sense please.

    I ask again, is there any point at which someone's water should be turned off for nonpayment--whether municipally run or private? Do you understand that government regulates private water and can still define the rules whether over themselves or private companies?

    Finally, it isn't a private company forcing my neighbors to hook up to municipal water and sewer, it is the government. No choice, no discussion. Better pay your bill on time or eventually you will be cut off. Governments can do that whether you vote some individuals out or not.
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    Re: Nestle CEO Says Water Is Food That Should Be Privatized

    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    Do you believe water is a basic human right? According to Nestlé CEO water is a foodstuff that should be privatized, not a human right. Nestlé CEO Peter Brabeck says that with the global population rising water is not a public right, but a resource that should be managed by businessmen. Please do share your thoughts.

    Read more at Nestlé CEO Says Water Is Food That Should Be Privatized - Not A Human Right - American Live Wire*|*American Live Wire

    makes sense really considering their history.

    in the seventies they were branded as "The baby killer" because they aggressively marketed infant formula to people who had very little resources and who did not have access to clean water.

    Back then, Nestlé's response was that their critics should focus on doing something to improve unsafe water supplies, which contributed to the health problems associated with bottle feeding. I spent 30 years doing just that in Mozambique, South Africa and elsewhere. So it was appropriate that water brought me together with Brabeck.
    so they moved on to making water a marketable product:

    I don't like the way companies such as Nestlé promote bottled water, turning one of life's essentials into a brand that only the better-off can afford and undermining the value of public supplies in the process.
    The author of the article grudgingly acknowledges they are making a contribution to protecting water supplies ....

    But I have to acknowledge Brabeck's efforts to get business and governments to work together to manage and protect the world's vital water resources.
    Nestlé baby milk scandal has grown up but not gone away | Guardian Sustainable Business | Guardian Professional

    and now we can see why!
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    Re: Nestle CEO Says Water Is Food That Should Be Privatized

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I guess I would like a list of what everyone considers to be a basic human right. If I dig a well on my property then it is my water. If I grow a tomato then it is mine. How many objectors to what this guy said actually pay a water bill?

    but if that well is sharing an aquifier with a multi-billion dollar conglomerate it is a potential hazard to the safety of the population that is their customers and you will have to close it up tight and buy your water from them. If you catch rain water, you're preventing this conglomerate from future sales, you're putting their profits in peril by not letting that aquifier replenish.

    It has already happened.

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    Re: Nestle CEO Says Water Is Food That Should Be Privatized

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    The infrastructure and maintenance is paid for by tax money, not by Nestle. The materials and labor to put in the infrastructure was paid for by tax money, not by Nestle. The water you use in your home is paid for by you and brought to your home by tax money, not by Nestle. The water was / is in the ground or taken from a river. Nestle did not create the water in some chem lab or factory. Nestle CEO nor any other company has a claim to the water.
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