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    Re: GOP Congressman: ‘Increase Surveillance’ of Muslim Community

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    This has nothing to do with common sense backed up by statistical evidence. This is playing a game of guilt by association and failure to make a distinction between correlation and causation.
    What statistical evidence?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: GOP Congressman: ‘Increase Surveillance’ of Muslim Community

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Peter King sees the attacks in Massachusetts this week as a wake-up call to local law-enforcement authorities to increase their surveillance and awareness of potential terrorists.

    “Police have to be in the community, they have to build up as many sources as they can, and they have to realize that the threat is coming from the Muslim community and increase surveillance there,” the New York Republican congressman tells National Review.

    “We can’t be bound by political correctness,” adds King, who chairs the House subcommittee on Counterterrorism and Intelligence. “I think we need more police and more surveillance in the communities where the threat is coming from, whether it’s the Irish community with the Westies [an Irish-American gang in New York City], or the Italian community with the mafia, or the Muslim community with the Islamic terrorists.”

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    Funny he didn't mention the Jewish mafia headed up by Arnold Rothstein and Meyer Lansky along with the New York Irish and Italian gangs.

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    Re: GOP Congressman: ‘Increase Surveillance’ of Muslim Community

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    It has to do with the statistical justification for your idea, if you're going to target a specific group like that then the exact same logic applies to targeting males over females for gun crime or any crime in general for that matter.
    If you're looking for an Islamofacist terrorist, that set off a bomb in Chicago; what neighborhoods are you going to start looking in? The high-falootin' white neighborhoods? Or the Muslim neighborhoods?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: GOP Congressman: ‘Increase Surveillance’ of Muslim Community

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Peter King sees the attacks in Massachusetts this week as a wake-up call to local law-enforcement authorities to increase their surveillance and awareness of potential terrorists.

    “Police have to be in the community, they have to build up as many sources as they can, and they have to realize that the threat is coming from the Muslim community and increase surveillance there,” the New York Republican congressman tells National Review.

    “We can’t be bound by political correctness,” adds King, who chairs the House subcommittee on Counterterrorism and Intelligence. “I think we need more police and more surveillance in the communities where the threat is coming from, whether it’s the Irish community with the Westies [an Irish-American gang in New York City], or the Italian community with the mafia, or the Muslim community with the Islamic terrorists.”

    GOP Congressman:
    Sounds like common sense to me.
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    Re: GOP Congressman: ‘Increase Surveillance’ of Muslim Community

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If you're looking for an Islamofacist terrorist, that set off a bomb in Chicago; what neighborhoods are you going to start looking in? The high-falootin' white neighborhoods? Or the Muslim neighborhoods?
    If I was looking for a terrorist I'd try to have more information than just that, because I'd know for example that the two Boston Marathon bombers ended up in Watertown, MA which is a 91% white neighborhood, is fairly middle-class, and has a large Christian Armenian population, which is nothing like the two suspects which were born in Kyrgyzstan, spent time in Checyna, and are Muslim.

    So... ya I just might look in the "high-falootin" white neighborhoods, depending on where the information leads me.

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    Re: GOP Congressman: ‘Increase Surveillance’ of Muslim Community

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Sounds like common sense to me.
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    Re: GOP Congressman: ‘Increase Surveillance’ of Muslim Community

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    "Unfortunately, we have too many mosques in this country. There are too many people who are sympathetic to radical Islam. We should be looking at them more carefully. We should be finding out how we can infiltrate."


    "I think there’s been a lack of full cooperation from too many people in the Muslim community. And it’s a real threat here in this country."

    “[Y]ou could say that 80-85 percent of mosques in this country are controlled by Islamic fundamentalists.”

    “I know of any number of mosques in New York…where there are radicals in there.”

    Muslims are “an enemy living amongst us.”

    “They won’t turn in their own. They won’t tell what’s going on in the mosques. They won’t come forward and cooperate with the police.”
    If you know there are radicals in the New York mosques, have you told the local police or Homeland Security,or the FBI?
    I confess, I did it, I let the dogs out.

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    Re: GOP Congressman: ‘Increase Surveillance’ of Muslim Community

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    he probably won't. ever. that's how it works when you only seek data that supports your theory instead of testing your theory with data.

    don't get me wrong; I'm depressed by this violent bull****, and I find zealotry of all types to be the root cause. however, I doubt that the number of violent Muslims in the US even approaches one percent. what he's suggesting is akin to monitoring all white people in order to catch serial killers.
    Right, I think the number of deaths Muslim Americans terrorist acts since 2001 is something like 20? I agree that we should track those who come into the country suspiciously and agree with disrupting terrorist organizations overseas that could potentially attack the US, yada yada. But lets be serious. If you or I decided we wanted to make a bomb and take out a bunch of people in public we could do it. Fairly easily I might add. The only thing stopping you or I from doing it is rationality and valuing human life; and we can't spend tens of billions of dollars on surveillance of the 99.9% of rational people to try and prevent the .1% of irrational people from being able to do anything.

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    Re: GOP Congressman: ‘Increase Surveillance’ of Muslim Community

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Agreed. Good evening, Pero.
    Howdy Jack, I hope all is well with you and yours
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: GOP Congressman: ‘Increase Surveillance’ of Muslim Community

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Howdy Jack, I hope all is well with you and yours
    Very well, thanks. You?
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