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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post

    To closely paraphrase someone very close to you ... Seriously, you don't even try to hide the fact that your partisan devotion is out of control.


    I may have to start ignoring your posts.

    Not everything that happens in the USA has to turn into a partisan witch hunt.

    No matter what some people on the left or right might think.




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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
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    And here we have a tin foil hat alert. The FBI likely dropped the case because Tamerlan did not have the skills or capacity to do anything. Do you really want a USSR style Secret Police watching everyone who has beliefs we find dangerous? The government does not have infinite resources. People who have motives, beliefs, skills and capacities to actually make good on threats get watched. People who spout off crap but can't even use a lighter don't. It amazes me just how far some people here are willing to COMPLETELY ABANDONED LIBERTY FOR SECURITY. ....
    I have heard, ironically, it was Russia who first notified the FBI they needed to keep an eye on the guy.....

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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I have heard, ironically, it was Russia who first notified the FBI they needed to keep an eye on the guy.....
    Russia still maintains significant aspects of its Secret Police. Considering how many people they've watched (and watch), they're going to get some of them right purely by the law of large numbers.

    I find it incredibly offensive for people to argue that the US government should enact some kind of domestic spying program purely based on beliefs. The potential for abuse is absurd large.
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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Russia still maintains significant aspects of its Secret Police. Considering how many people they've watched (and watch), they're going to get some of them right purely by the law of large numbers.

    I find it incredibly offensive for people to argue that the US government should enact some kind of domestic spying program purely based on beliefs. The potential for abuse is absurd large.
    I agree. Why waste all that money creating a big government program when we could just subpoena Google and Facebook and know everything we need to know about a person for the cost of a Sheriff showing up at their offices.

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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I agree. Why waste all that money creating a big government program when we could just subpoena Google and Facebook and know everything we need to know about a person for the cost of a Sheriff showing up at their offices.
    But what if they're off the grid? That said, it would be cheaper to do that way.

    That said, it would be hugely ironic for a Democratic President to abuse such a spying program to dig up dirt against every Republican running for office. Hello, I told you this would happen! Did you listen? No.
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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    But what if they're off the grid? That said, it would be cheaper to do that way.

    That said, it would be hugely ironic for a Democratic President to abuse such a spying program to dig up dirt against every Republican running for office. Hello, I told you this would happen! Did you listen? No.



    Sounds something like what 'Tricky' Dick Nixon had going on.

    I'll just add that Nixon did do a lot of good things (Trying to be fair here.).

    I actually kind of liked Nixon at one time.

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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Sounds something like what 'Tricky' Dick Nixon had going on.
    Nixon would have wet his pants at what we can do now with spying.

    I'll just add that Nixon did do a lot of good things (Trying to be fair here.).

    I actually kind of liked Nixon at one time.
    He did open China up. Gotta give him that. Even if he was a crook.
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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Nixon would have wet his pants at what we can do now with spying.



    He did open China up. Gotta give him that. Even if he was a crook.


    Nixon had a lot of things going for him, he could have been an almost great president.

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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I may have to start ignoring your posts.

    Not everything that happens in the USA has to turn into a partisan witch hunt.

    No matter what some people on the left or right might think.




    "We should be able to disagree without being disagreeable."


    that's exactly what the terrorists want you to think

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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    that's exactly what the terrorists want you to think



    Whatever.

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