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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

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    Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev dead brother is Tamerlan Tsarnaev, uncle Ruslan Tsarni says; MIT shooting before Boston explosion suspect killed in Watertown, MA; 2nd Boston Marathon suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev on loose | abc7chicago.com

    If he was here on a student visa and got busted for domestic violence he was eligible to be deported. But hey...tolerance in this kind of thing is good...right?
    I don't know that the immigration policy has really changed under Obama. I don't blame his policies because I don't know how he's changed them.

    I blame mis-use of the powers under the Patriot Act. We should have been in black hat's life big time after the FBI interviewed him. Can you imagine that interview? A polite phone call to set up an appointment maybe? Or a polite knock at the door asking him to call them? Or maybe they were lucky enough to catch him at home if they stopped by? Had the final straw, the interview with the FBI, triggered monitoring him using Patriot Act powers, we would have seen his UTube videos, monitored his internet usage, checked back in at his residence a few times a year perhaps . . . been in his life big time. But it didn't. The agents who interviewed him decided of their own accord he was harmless.

    They were wrong.
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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

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    This isn't the kind of thing that somebody just wakes up one day and decides to do.
    Neither is shooting up a school in Connecticut.

    Surveillance of every single person who might be a threat is very much what a police state does. I'll take my chances if it avoids having the Stasi here.


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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

    In other words, "I've got nothing really, but if I can think of a way to blame Obama, I will."


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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

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    Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev dead brother is Tamerlan Tsarnaev, uncle Ruslan Tsarni says; MIT shooting before Boston explosion suspect killed in Watertown, MA; 2nd Boston Marathon suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev on loose | abc7chicago.com

    If he was here on a student visa and got busted for domestic violence he was eligible to be deported. But hey...tolerance in this kind of thing is good...right?
    They came to the United States when Bush was President in 2005, and unless you can show a change in immigration policy under Obama that directly relates to this situation you really have nothing to go on. In other words you need to be able to show "Obama did this change, and if it were not for this change he would have been deported."

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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

    If Obama is to blame for this, Bush is to blame for 9/11.
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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

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    Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev dead brother is Tamerlan Tsarnaev, uncle Ruslan Tsarni says; MIT shooting before Boston explosion suspect killed in Watertown, MA; 2nd Boston Marathon suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev on loose | abc7chicago.com



    If he was here on a student visa and got busted for domestic violence he was eligible to be deported. But hey...tolerance in this kind of thing is good...right?
    They were here legally, and the older brother was a citizen.

    The problems with Obama's immigration policy "leniency" is that it doesn't take illegal immigration seriously enough. So while there is much to criticize, the events in Boston had nothing to do with it.
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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev dead brother is Tamerlan Tsarnaev, uncle Ruslan Tsarni says; MIT shooting before Boston explosion suspect killed in Watertown, MA; 2nd Boston Marathon suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev on loose | abc7chicago.com



    If he was here on a student visa and got busted for domestic violence he was eligible to be deported. But hey...tolerance in this kind of thing is good...right?
    I don't know the details, but two things jump out to me:

    1. Arrested, does not mean convicted.

    2. There are hundreds of things that represent the incompetence of Obama - this isn't one of them.

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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't know the details, but two things jump out to me:

    1. Arrested, does not mean convicted.

    2. There are hundreds of things that represent the incompetence of Obama - this isn't one of them.
    even with a conviction, I can't imagine that anyone is going to go through the trouble of deporting someone, who's been here 10 years with a clean record, for a minor assault.

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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    In other words, "I've got nothing really, but if I can think of a way to blame Obama, I will."
    It was Obama's FBI that cleared Tamerlan, wasn't it?
    And the guy had a radical website.
    Outside of the age difference ol' Tamerlan could have been another one of the guys in Obama's neighborhood.

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    Re: Did Obama's lenient immigration policy allow the Boston bombing?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    It was Obama's FBI that cleared Tamerlan, wasn't it?
    Are you seriously going to hold Obama accountable for every action the Federal Government does?

    Are you trying to win the most Partisan Hackjob award here?

    Not even the most radical leftist would have argued Bush was responsible for every single bad thing the government did during his terms in office. Seems like you have absolutely no concept of what the Office of the President does.
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