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    Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    I ran across this story and I thought it was interesting from the perspective of the kind of hatred and anger we often direct at ourselves, meaning our fellow Americans. The story is about this man, Carlos Arredondo, wearing the cowboy hat.



    In 2004 his son was killed in Iraq by a sniper and Carlos attempted to commit suicide by burning himself alive with a can of gasoline. Later on he became passionately anti-war, he's what many of you would describe as a liberal who thinks we should have never invaded Iraq and it was done as a knee-jerk reaction to 9/11. He attended protests were in 2007 he was assaulted by members of a counter protest going on at the same time. Later in 2011 his other son committed suicide

    The Redemption Of The Man In The Cowboy Hat | Cognoscenti

    Daily Kos: Boston Hero Carlos Arredondo Beaten by 'Gathering of Eagles' Thugs in 2007

    The People Who Assaulted a Gold Star Father on September 15th | War Is A Crime .org

    This topic isn't attempting to paint all liberals as selfless heroes or all conservatives as violent offenders, I'm making it in the hopes that some of the folks here who often try to dehumanize people they disagree with as "scum," "unamerican," "pink-commie" you get the idea will remember what was demonstrated here. That despite political differences when things really started going bad none of that mattered and this man acted in a way we would all consider heroic and a fine example of American pride. Let's not let the things that are different about us, despite how passionately we feel about them in the present, ever let us dehumanize our fellow Americans who despite any political differences we'll always have far more in common with and share more beliefs with than anything that may be different between us.

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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    Thank you!

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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    Wow! What a story. I just finished reading everything on all 3 links including reader comments. Carlos Arredondo is quite an amazing American. He's been through hell and at times treated very badly. He is the change he wants to see in the world. What a fine example of what Americans should be.

    Thanks, Wise.










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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How many times are you to try and play this card? I'm not a partisan, I don't have party interests in mind, I'm an independent, I have standards, holding up an example of liberal saying something stupid as if its going to make me back track or recant my statement because I don't want to criticize a liberal isn't going to work.

    But ya kinda like that sergeant, it is sergeant right?

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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    How many times are you to try and play this card? I'm not a partisan, I don't have party interests in mind, I'm an independent, I have standards, holding up an example of liberal saying something stupid as if its going to make me back track or recant my statement because I don't want to criticize a liberal isn't going to work.

    But ya kinda like that sergeant, it is sergeant right?
    I'm simply agreeing with you. What's your problem?

    It's sergeant first class, but sergeant will do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Apparently "I don't want a minority group to be singled out and hated for the actions of one individual" is such a terrible message to apdst.

    If the bomber is a white, christian male, nobody is going to suggest we racially profile white people or prevent christians from building churches. Random white christians aren't going to be beaten in the street for looking like a terrorist. If the bomber turns out to be a member of the IRA, we're not going to bomb Scotland. Don't you agree?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    holding up an example of liberal saying something stupid
    How is that any different than the op that holds up a 'liberal' as a hero, abused by 'the other guys'?


    As for the OP. Those that do good deeds are not limited to the right or left, or owned by either side. But nor do good deeds make their politics valid.
    "nah i think the way cons want to turn this into a political issue is funny though" - Philly Boss

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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    In 2004 his son was killed in Iraq by a sniper and Carlos attempted to commit suicide by burning himself alive with a can of gasoline. Later on he became passionately anti-war, he's what many of you would describe as a liberal who thinks we should have never invaded Iraq and it was done as a knee-jerk reaction to 9/11.

    This topic isn't attempting to paint all liberals as selfless heroes or all conservatives as violent offenders, I'm making it in the hopes that some of the folks here who often try to dehumanize people they disagree with as "scum," "unamerican," "pink-commie" you get the idea will remember what was demonstrated here.
    Can you post some examples of people who call the parents of soldiers who died in combat "scum," "unamerican," "pink commies" or something similar?

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