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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Can you post some examples of people who call the parents of soldiers who died in combat "scum," "unamerican," "pink commies" or something similar?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    ...I'm making it in the hopes that some of the folks here who often try to dehumanize people they disagree with as "scum," "unamerican," "pink-commie" you get the idea...
    I haven't been a member here long enough to know whether or not we have members who are the parents of soldiers who died in combat, and if so whether or not other members have refered to those parents as "scum," "unamerican," "pink-commie", or etc...

    But the OP isn't specifically discussing the parents of soldiers who died in combat, or their treatment here.

    Rather, he refers more generally to "people [we] disagree with".

    Further, he isn't limiting use of epithets to "scum," "unamerican," "pink-commie" specifically. He was just using them as examples, which is evidenced by his following that list with the phrase "you get the idea".

    Essentially, what he's saying, is "don't be a douchebag to folks whose ideas you might disagree with, because they might be really stand-up people in many other respects".

    I think he makes a great point.

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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Essentially, what he's saying, is "don't be a douchebag to folks whose ideas you might disagree with, because they might be really stand-up people in many other respects".

    I think he makes a great point.
    Seems rather obvious to me that people with different political views "can be really stand-up people in many other respects" - but if you find this to be some great insight, I'm glad you learned something.

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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    It's a good message, one I hope is universally carried along by people. Unfortunatenly, I don't have much faith in humanity or the general public that talk about politics. It won't be long before the usual suspects on the left are proclaiming a tea partier an bigoted fascist idiot or the usual suspects on the right proclaiming an anti-war proponent unamerican commie scum.
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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    How many times are you to try and play this card? I'm not a partisan, I don't have party interests in mind, I'm an independent, I have standards, holding up an example of liberal saying something stupid as if its going to make me back track or recant my statement because I don't want to criticize a liberal isn't going to work.

    But ya kinda like that sergeant, it is sergeant right?
    Have you ever criticized a liberal?
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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Seems rather obvious to me that people with different political views "can be really stand-up people in many other respects" - but if you find this to be some great insight...
    I think his exhortation to "not be a douchebag" (or a smarmy little punk, as the case may be) to those people just because you're posting from the safety/anonymity of the Internet (and as a result do not run the risk of getting your teeth knocked in) was the "great insight".

    I'm glad you learned something.
    Apparently you're much to clever to have learned anything.


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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Since you missed it:



    I haven't been a member here long enough to know whether or not we have members who are the parents of soldiers who died in combat, and if so whether or not other members have refered to those parents as "scum," "unamerican," "pink-commie", or etc...

    But the OP isn't specifically discussing the parents of soldiers who died in combat, or their treatment here.

    Rather, he refers more generally to "people [we] disagree with".

    Further, he isn't limiting use of epithets to "scum," "unamerican," "pink-commie" specifically. He was just using them as examples, which is evidenced by his following that list with the phrase "you get the idea".

    Essentially, what he's saying, is "don't be a douchebag to folks whose ideas you might disagree with, because they might be really stand-up people in many other respects".

    I think he makes a great point.
    Said it exactly right.

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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    It's a good message, one I hope is universally carried along by people. Unfortunatenly, I don't have much faith in humanity or the general public that talk about politics. It won't be long before the usual suspects on the left are proclaiming a tea partier an bigoted fascist idiot or the usual suspects on the right proclaiming an anti-war proponent unamerican commie scum.

    Why not call A tea partier a "bigoted fascist idiot" if they happen to be one? You see that capitalised letter "A"? It is intended to mean ONE individual, not all members of a group.

    It is the Conservatives who I see attacking groups because of the actions of ONE person who happens to be a member of said group. It is yet one more example of the binary thinking, the "either/or", the "MY way or the Highway" pattern of thought so often exhibited by our modern American right.
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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Why not call A tea partier a "bigoted fascist idiot" if they happen to be one? You see that capitalised letter "A"? It is intended to mean ONE individual, not all members of a group.

    It is the Conservatives who I see attacking groups because of the actions of ONE person who happens to be a member of said group. It is yet one more example of the binary thinking, the "either/or", the "MY way or the Highway" pattern of thought so often exhibited by our modern American right.
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    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Have you ever criticized a liberal?
    I doubt it, that's why this thread is another veiled attack on the Right.
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    Re: Boston Civilian Hero was Beat by 'Patriot' group

    At heart here the issue seems to be can one act redeem another act. That is entirely up to circumstance and personal opinion regarding each act evaluated. I've met folks who daily commit acts of kindness who act like total dickwads in certain circumstances, and I've met folks the other way around, who act with heinous disregard most times but in certain circumstances can be counted upon to come out the hero. We're most of us like that to a degree.

    The guy's behavior in the anti-war circumstance, though understandably a result of his grief, were ugly in my book. His behavior in this circumstance was golden in my book. One doesn't speak to the other.

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