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    Re: College Professor Arrested for Profane Rant at Pro-Life Students

    We don't have all the facts. Given what we know, had I been the responding officer, I would have told her that she was not under arrest. I would then have asked her to go inside a nearby building so that I could better hear her side of the issue. Once inside I would let her rant on without a public audience. This allows her to save a bit of face and removes her from the situation. Simple enough.

    All too often these days, with militarized law enforcement and government determined "free speech zones" arrest is the only resolution to public confrontation.










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    Re: College Professor Arrested for Profane Rant at Pro-Life Students

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm guessing you're passion speaks from experience - power on.
    I don't like whinny little bitches who run to government every time something doesn't go there way and leaves the lot of us with a ridiculous amount of law, government force, and unhindered police discretion. Tired of it. People don't seem to understand, the government will listen when they say "you need to do something about X", but try keeping them out of X when they don't belong there.

    Words are not enough for assault, cops should never be allowed to arrest one for being rude, people need to grow up.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: College Professor Arrested for Profane Rant at Pro-Life Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    All too often these days, with militarized law enforcement and government determined "free speech zones" arrest is the only resolution to public confrontation.
    And this is one of the biggest problems.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: College Professor Arrested for Profane Rant at Pro-Life Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't care if I curse at an inanimate object of tell someone to go **** themselves repeatedly; cursing does not infringe upon anyone's rights.
    Maybe it shouldn't be illegal. But as a college student, I can tell you the worst possible thing a professor can do is shout a student down. Its funny how some professors claim that college is supposed to be about "opening the mind" and being "exposed to new ideas" (a premise which I find to be a load of bullcrap) yet some of these very same professors are quite intolerant of anyone who dissents with their views.

    I get instate tuition at one of the cheapest public universities in the country (yet is top notch in their STEM degrees), yet it is still over $700 for a 3 credit class. I had a professor last semester who consistently either cut students off, shouted them down, or mocked them if they had any disagreement over what he said. Why the **** am I paying $700 for some snob to get to lecture and test me on their ideology for 3 hours a week, yet if I point out a single flaw in his argument, or point out a single dissenting fact, or offer a single alternative hypothesis I'm automatically wrong because I'm some racist/colorblind-racist/sexist/heartless/biggoted/white supremist who secretly sympathizes with neo-Nazi's and the KKK. Oh and the worst part was half our grade was attendance, so I was pretty much forced to listen to his rants about how science is fiction, gender doesn't exist, drug dealers and murderers are really just poor souls affected by racism, and the media is to blame for gay male couples beating each other. If you are wondering where my inspiration for my signature came from, now you know. It literally was the worst experience in my academic career.

    Long story short: Maybe it shouldn't be illegal, but intolerant professors are in infringement on my rights as a student, and have no place in our school system.

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    Re: College Professor Arrested for Profane Rant at Pro-Life Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't like whinny little bitches who run to government every time something doesn't go there way and leaves the lot of us with a ridiculous amount of law, government force, and unhindered police discretion. Tired of it. People don't seem to understand, the government will listen when they say "you need to do something about X", but try keeping them out of X when they don't belong there.

    Words are not enough for assault, cops should never be allowed to arrest one for being rude, people need to grow up.
    I don't disagree with your sentiments, but we don't know what actually happened here and I'm pretty sure the police do not arrest people simply for swearing.

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    Re: College Professor Arrested for Profane Rant at Pro-Life Students

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Maybe it shouldn't be illegal. But as a college student, I can tell you the worst possible thing a professor can do is shout a student down. Its funny how some professors claim that college is supposed to be about "opening the mind" and being "exposed to new ideas" (a premise which I find to be a load of bullcrap) yet some of these very same professors are quite intolerant of anyone who dissents with their views.

    I get instate tuition at one of the cheapest public universities in the country (yet is top notch in their STEM degrees), yet it is still over $700 for a 3 credit class. I had a professor last semester who consistently either cut students off, shouted them down, or mocked them if they had any disagreement over what he said. Why the **** am I paying $700 for some snob to get to lecture and test me on their ideology for 3 hours a week, yet if I point out a single flaw in his argument, or point out a single dissenting fact, or offer a single alternative hypothesis I'm automatically wrong because I'm some racist/colorblind-racist/sexist/heartless/biggoted/white supremist who secretly sympathizes with neo-Nazi's and the KKK. Oh and the worst part was half our grade was attendance, so I was pretty much forced to listen to his rants about how science is fiction, gender doesn't exist, drug dealers and murderers are really just poor souls affected by racism, and the media is to blame for gay male couples beating each other. If you are wondering where my inspiration for my signature came from, now you know. It literally was the worst experience in my academic career.

    Long story short: Maybe it shouldn't be illegal, but intolerant professors are in infringement on my rights as a student, and have no place in our school system.
    What "right" as a student? You're the dumbass who kept going to the class, kept paying the school. Maybe you can get your 700 bucks back, but to claim that you somehow have jurisdiction over people's mouths because you put a little cash down is just a bit too far.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: College Professor Arrested for Profane Rant at Pro-Life Students

    The OP's vid clip is no longer available, so here's YouTube so all can judge for themselves:


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    Re: College Professor Arrested for Profane Rant at Pro-Life Students

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What "right" as a student? You're the dumbass who kept going to the class, kept paying the school. Maybe you can get your 700 bucks back, but to claim that you somehow have jurisdiction over people's mouths because you put a little cash down is just a bit too far.
    Perhaps you didn't see the part about attendance being half the grade. I could have stopped going to class, but receiving an F wasn't an acceptable alternative. The school is under no obligation to give me my money back or fire the teacher because the school literally doesn't care as long as they get their money. I don't claim to have jurisdiction over anyone's mouth, he can say whatever he wants to. But if he's going to try to shout me (it wasn't ever me, it was other students; I either kept my mouth shut or keenly asked him a question in a way in which he'd make himself look stupid) down, but I will get "disciplinary action" from either him or the school if I return the favor..... that sort of hypocracy I do have a problem with.

    You're probably going to say "deal with it, you'll get that from a boss as well" to which I'm going to say.... "yeah but my boss pays me, I'm not paying him."

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    Re: College Professor Arrested for Profane Rant at Pro-Life Students

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't disagree with your sentiments, but we don't know what actually happened here and I'm pretty sure the police do not arrest people simply for swearing.
    From what we have seen here is what I believe happened.

    The cops were called to respond.

    Initially, they were assessing the situation.

    Anyone threatened or harmed? No.

    Is there more to this than what we've been told or what we see? We don't know yet.

    Can the situation escalate? Wait and see.

    Is she going to run out of steam? Not yet.

    Is she going to go bat-****e crazy if we leave? Don't know, but she isn't calming down. At this point they should have asked her to step inside a building so that they could hear her side of the story out of public view. They didn't.

    The adjunct seems to have backed herself into a corner now and cannot save face. Her anger grows. A little more public anger and the police may have enough to arrest her. At this point she seems to be taunting the police.

    They arrest her.

    In my opinion the police may have had the power to avoid all this if they had peacefully gotten her to remove herself from the situation and go inside a building. The cops didn't do this to my knowledge. The police, it appears, decided to take the power and authority approach to end the situation. Bad move.










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    Re: College Professor Arrested for Profane Rant at Pro-Life Students

    I'm not defending the lack of class exhibited here but I'm curious about the extent of the first amendment coverage.

    For example, if I say **** you to somebody, that might be considered "fighting words" and could result in a disorderly conduct charge. But if I say **** Obama, hell, I'll make a bunch of new friends. So, where is the line I wonder...



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    Depends on whether you are directing it at someone else or the heavens when you smash your thumb with a hammer. Situations matter.

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