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Deal approved in Muslims' suit against McDonald's [W:40]

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a judge on wednesday finalized a $700,000 settlement between mcdonald's corp. And members of michigan's muslim community over claims a suburban detroit restaurant falsely advertised its food as prepared according to islamic law.

Ahmed ahmed, the dearborn heights man who represents plaintiffs in the class-action suit, claims he bought a chicken sandwich in september 2011 at the restaurant but found it wasn't halal. Islam forbids consumption of pork, and god's name must be invoked before an animal providing meat for consumption is slaughtered.

Deal approved in Muslims' suit against McDonald's
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a fyi.
 
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It probably isn't worth the effort for a commercial restaurant to prepare halal food. That $700k is probably more than they grossed from the Muslim community.
 
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zimmer said:
a fyi.
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That guy is full of ****. It's McDonald's, it probably wasn't even meat.
 
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zimmer said:
a fyi.
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And? Not sure why you felt the need to share. Is it just because the title contains that scarey word "Muslim"?
 
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Redress said:
And? Not sure why you felt the need to share. Is it just because the title contains that scarey word "Muslim"?
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I posted it because it was interesting. I was waiting to see the reply about the lawyers and where the money went and the response... but nobody seems to have picked it up or read that far.

And as for the end of your post... why would I be scared of "Muslim"? Because a faction of Muslims have introduced a level of carnage and mayhem into western society that is the new norm? Because the Mulsim community is largely silent about the terrorists acting in the name of their religion?

I'm curious... why would you post that? Are you afraid to explain why?
 
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zimmer said:
a fyi.
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UK had the same problem. Due to islamist movement, the meat companies were forced to do halal meat and commercialize it... and they didn't put a label on the product saying that: This meat was prepared according to halal.

Why?

because its a brutal, stupid, barbaric ritual and the merchants knew that if they put the label HALAL MEAT on their meat, decent people wouldn't buy it because they wouldn't support the barbarism.
 
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Rainman05 said:
UK had the same problem. Due to islamist movement, the meat companies were forced to do halal meat and commercialize it... and they didn't put a label on the product saying that: This meat was prepared according to halal.

Why?

because its a brutal, stupid, barbaric ritual and the merchants knew that if they put the label HALAL MEAT on their meat, decent people wouldn't buy it because they wouldn't support the barbarism.
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But that's not what happened here. McDonald's falsely advertised their products as halal. They weren't forced to do anything, and they certainly weren't forced to lie about their products.
 
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zimmer said:
I posted it because it was interesting. I was waiting to see the reply about the lawyers and where the money went and the response... but nobody seems to have picked it up or read that far.

And as for the end of your post... why would I be scared of "Muslim"? Because a faction of Muslims have introduced a level of carnage and mayhem into western society that is the new norm? Because the Mulsim community is largely silent about the terrorists acting in the name of their religion?

I'm curious... why would you post that? Are you afraid to explain why?
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So it isn't about McDonalds so much as it is about your hatred of Muslims. This just another lame-ass troll thread using McDonald's as bait.

Haters gonna hate.
 
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Risky Thicket said:
So it isn't about McDonalds so much as it is about your hatred of Muslims. This just another lame-ass troll thread using McDonald's as bait.

Haters gonna hate.
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Nice try... but a fail.

You seem to suffer from reading comprehension problems.

I was interested to see if the folks here picked up where the money was going.

As far as Muslims... I don't hate Muslims, but I do find their silence on matter terroristic distasteful. The word "hate" is one I use in a very limited, almost non-existent manner... but I do hate the twisted terrorist oriented Muslims.
 
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Rainman05 said:
UK had the same problem. Due to islamist movement, the meat companies were forced to do halal meat and commercialize it... and they didn't put a label on the product saying that: This meat was prepared according to halal.

Why?

because its a brutal, stupid, barbaric ritual and the merchants knew that if they put the label HALAL MEAT on their meat, decent people wouldn't buy it because they wouldn't support the barbarism.
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How is it "having that problem" when the two situations, as you describe it, are nothing at all alike. In the situation here, McDonalds decided to advertise something they apparently where not providing, got busted for it, or at least did not expect a jury to buy their story, so settled the lawsuit. That is not even remotely like the situation you describe.
 
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zimmer said:
Nice try... but a fail.

You seem to suffer from reading comprehension problems.

I was interested to see if the folks here picked up where the money was going.

As far as Muslims... I don't hate Muslims, but I do find their silence on matter terroristic distasteful. The word "hate" is one I use in a very limited, almost non-existent manner... but I do hate the twisted terrorist oriented Muslims.
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Of course it is about your fear of Muslims. We all know it. Money went to two charities, the guy who brought suit and the lawyers, which is not even remotely a big deal. I think we should start monitoring your money flow, see how much of it goes to support right wing terror nuts. It is every bit as much our business as where settlement money goes.
 
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Rainman05 said:
UK had the same problem. Due to islamist movement, the meat companies were forced to do halal meat and commercialize it... and they didn't put a label on the product saying that: This meat was prepared according to halal.

Why?

because its a brutal, stupid, barbaric ritual and the merchants knew that if they put the label HALAL MEAT on their meat, decent people wouldn't buy it because they wouldn't support the barbarism.
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But here, nobody forced McDonald's to do anything. Yet, they falsely advertised that the meat was in accordance with Islamic law. I wouldn't favor forcing anyone to sell halal meat, but I do think that if you're going to say it is, it should be.

I have a suspicion that we wouldn't be seeing this thread if you changed "halal" to "kosher" and "Muslim" to "Jew."
 
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Redress said:
Of course it is about your fear of Muslims. We all know it.
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You tried once to paint me as a racist. That I didn't particularly like black people. I had to correct you, and reveal I had dated a black girl for some time. More than dated... fell in love with the girl. Now...

...you are trying this vile crap once again.

You Redress seem to have a mental problem with people who bring up news concerning minorities. It is you who has a problem, for I clearly explained my stance. You ignored it, and continue in you twisted way to paint me as some type of racist or bigot.

I suggest you get some counseling because what you are trying to pull is the height of disgusting.
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Diogenes said:
It probably isn't worth the effort for a commercial restaurant to prepare halal food. That $700k is probably more than they grossed from the Muslim community.
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Why wouldn't kosher processes satisfy the muslims as well? Kosher is also pork-free.
 
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American said:
Why wouldn't kosher processes satisfy the muslims as well? Kosher is also pork-free.
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Halal is a lot like "Kosher" but there is one obvious difference, the prayer said as the blood is drained from the carcass. When hunting for meat in India in 1953 with a Muslim as my "baby sitter" (Shikar) I only wounded a Nilgai when I shot him in the neck (knocked him out) with a non-lethal shot. He was tickled to death because he was able to Halal the antelope thus could eat the meat. I shiped about 250 lbs of loin, rib section and top round meat home to Lucknow packaged with dry ice that evening. The other half of the meat was shared with the jungle wallas and my baby sitter after BBQing and drying with salt and smoke (like jerky).

I agree with the judgement if the restaurant did intentionally deceive the people.
 
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Redress said:
How is it "having that problem" when the two situations, as you describe it, are nothing at all alike. In the situation here, McDonalds decided to advertise something they apparently where not providing, got busted for it, or at least did not expect a jury to buy their story, so settled the lawsuit. That is not even remotely like the situation you describe.
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rocket88 said:
But here, nobody forced McDonald's to do anything. Yet, they falsely advertised that the meat was in accordance with Islamic law. I wouldn't favor forcing anyone to sell halal meat, but I do think that if you're going to say it is, it should be.

I have a suspicion that we wouldn't be seeing this thread if you changed "halal" to "kosher" and "Muslim" to "Jew."
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Deuce said:
But that's not what happened here. McDonald's falsely advertised their products as halal. They weren't forced to do anything, and they certainly weren't forced to lie about their products.
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ok, I must have misread.

I was writing in a hurry and based on previous experience I did not analyze the story entirely. I thought it was a remix of what happened in the UK, when in fact, it isn't. My bad. But it doesn't change the facts I stated about halal meat.

My mistake, carry on.
 
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Diogenes said:
It probably isn't worth the effort for a commercial restaurant to prepare halal food. That $700k is probably more than they grossed from the Muslim community.
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Dearborn actually has a pretty significantly sized Islamic population
 
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Rainman05 said:
UK had the same problem. Due to islamist movement, the meat companies were forced to do halal meat and commercialize it... and they didn't put a label on the product saying that: This meat was prepared according to halal.

Why?

because its a brutal, stupid, barbaric ritual and the merchants knew that if they put the label HALAL MEAT on their meat, decent people wouldn't buy it because they wouldn't support the barbarism.
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If the food was advertised as halall then why shouldn't these people sue and why shouldn't they be compensated?
 
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American said:
Why wouldn't kosher processes satisfy the muslims as well? Kosher is also pork-free.
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Does kosher preparation require the prayer before killing the animal?
 
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Why do you say this?

Halal is just like Kosher. The most merciful way of slaughtering an animal. If the animal experiences ANY pain, it is NOT Halal or Kosher.

Muslims are enjoined to slaughter their livestock by slitting the animal's throat in a swift and merciful manner, reciting God’s name with the words, "In the name of God, God is Most Great" (Qur'an 6:118-121). This is in acknowledgement that life is sacred, and that one must kill only with God's permission, to meet one's lawful need for food. The animal is then bled completely before consumption. Meat prepared in this manner is called zabihah, or simply, halal meat.
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Rainman05 said:
UK had the same problem. Due to islamist movement, the meat companies were forced to do halal meat and commercialize it... and they didn't put a label on the product saying that: This meat was prepared according to halal.

Why?

because its a brutal, stupid, barbaric ritual and the merchants knew that if they put the label HALAL MEAT on their meat, decent people wouldn't buy it because they wouldn't support the barbarism.
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What is this about the UK meat companies being "forced" to do halal meat, is there any truth to it?
 
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L0neW0lf said:
What is this about the UK meat companies being "forced" to do halal meat, is there any truth to it?
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If they want to do business with the relatively high Muslim population they do. Demand can be a bitch!
 
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zimmer said:
Nice try... but a fail.

You seem to suffer from reading comprehension problems.

I was interested to see if the folks here picked up where the money was going.

As far as Muslims... I don't hate Muslims, but I do find their silence on matter terroristic distasteful. The word "hate" is one I use in a very limited, almost non-existent manner... but I do hate the twisted terrorist oriented Muslims.
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They aren't silent, you just never actually listen to what they say. "Random people condemn terrorist act" doesn't make any news channel anywhere.
 
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L0neW0lf said:
What is this about the UK meat companies being "forced" to do halal meat, is there any truth to it?
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Free market at work.
 
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zimmer said:
I posted it because it was interesting. I was waiting to see the reply about the lawyers and where the money went and the response... but nobody seems to have picked it up or read that far.

And as for the end of your post... why would I be scared of "Muslim"? Because a faction of Muslims have introduced a level of carnage and mayhem into western society that is the new norm? Because the Mulsim community is largely silent about the terrorists acting in the name of their religion?

I'm curious... why would you post that? Are you afraid to explain why?
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I would just like to point out one particular thing here, and this isn't just you, it is a common complaint but one that no one ever seems to understand, basically not because you can't or or are incapable of understanding it but simply you may be unaware.

The Muslim community at large doesn't take up loud, vocal protest or condemnation against this very, very, small, minority sect who have hijacked Islam and turned it into their own private excuse to commit acts of atrocity that the Prophet(saw) himself would surely put them to death for because it is forbidden in Islam for a Muslim to publiclly berate, insult, or speak ill of another muslim. It isn't that they don't find what these cowardly dogs are doing detestable it is that their religion and as an extension culture won't allow for it.

Western religion has no restrictions in this regard and as a culture public condemnation is a norm (an all too freely exercised norm if you ask me personally) so the expectation of what should be done by the "good muslims" is based on a seperate criteria of duty and obligations.
 
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