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    Re: Deal approved in Muslims' suit against McDonald's

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I would just like to point out one particular thing here, and this isn't just you, it is a common complaint but one that no one ever seems to understand, basically not because you can't or or are incapable of understanding it but simply you may be unaware.

    The Muslim community at large doesn't take up loud, vocal protest or condemnation against this very, very, small, minority sect who have hijacked Islam and turned it into their own private excuse to commit acts of atrocity that the Prophet(saw) himself would surely put them to death for because it is forbidden in Islam for a Muslim to publiclly berate, insult, or speak ill of another muslim. It isn't that they don't find what these cowardly dogs are doing detestable it is that their religion and as an extension culture won't allow for it.

    Western religion has no restrictions in this regard and as a culture public condemnation is a norm (an all too freely exercised norm if you ask me personally) so the expectation of what should be done by the "good muslims" is based on a seperate criteria of duty and obligations.
    Well... it is time they used their 1st Amendment Rights and "evolve".

    I will throw in a reason why they don't... FEAR. Fear they will be targeted by these demented terrorists.

    Now... it is up to the leadership in the Muslim community to come out and start this. Sitting by and watching a faction of idiots terrorize society because they have issues with it is no excuse not to come out and condemn it publicly and consistently. NO excuse. Instead we have the fools at CAIR as the face of Muslims in America. That is unacceptable.
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    Re: Deal approved in Muslims' suit against McDonald's

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Well... it is time they used their 1st Amendment Rights and "evolve".

    I will throw in a reason why they don't... FEAR. Fear they will be targeted by these demented terrorists.

    Now... it is up to the leadership in the Muslim community to come out and start this. Sitting by and watching a faction of idiots terrorize society because they have issues with it is no excuse not to come out and condemn it publicly and consistently. NO excuse. Instead we have the fools at CAIR as the face of Muslims in America. That is unacceptable.
    So do you run around all day condemning white christian terrorists like those who bomb and shoot abortion providers? Why do you expect more from others?
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    Re: Deal approved in Muslims' suit against McDonald's

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So do you run around all day condemning white christian terrorists like those who bomb and shoot abortion providers? Why do you expect more from others?
    Our society does... our leaders tend to. It is the minority who cry for terrorists in our society.

    Though it seems there is a majority of Americans who will actually vote for someone who seeks out assistance up the political ladder by people who bomb/terrorize others. Some of these voters may be ignorant of the fact of Obama's terrorist ties, others seem to be tolerant of terrorists working with political figures seeking high office, and defend this relationship vigorously. People like you.

    There are some of us who tried to vocally warn Americans of people of such shallow character to have sought out terrorists, bigots and racists. To no avail. Be we did try. And we do not tolerate terrorists, terrorism in any form from any race, religion or political lean. For people like you... you cannot make that claim. You tolerate terrorism similar to the Boston Bombing at some level or you would never have voted for Obama.
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    Re: Deal approved in Muslims' suit against McDonald's

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Well... it is time they used their 1st Amendment Rights and "evolve".

    I will throw in a reason why they don't... FEAR. Fear they will be targeted by these demented terrorists.

    Now... it is up to the leadership in the Muslim community to come out and start this. Sitting by and watching a faction of idiots terrorize society because they have issues with it is no excuse not to come out and condemn it publicly and consistently. NO excuse. Instead we have the fools at CAIR as the face of Muslims in America. That is unacceptable.
    You might not like my answer, but it is the correct one.

    Muslims have a tendancy of taking their religion a little more serious than most Christians in this country...

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    Re: Deal approved in Muslims' suit against McDonald's

    Exsanguinating (new word for me so thanks) is PRECISELY how meat is Kosher or Halal. That';s the whole idea. Exsanguation is painless. There are special knives used that are extraordinarily sharp and the cuts must be made so the animal does NOT react. There is NO "barbaric ritual". Unless you consider prayer to be barbaric (I won't argue that).

    Comparison of Islamic and Jewish dietary laws - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    The difference between Halal and Kosher is the slaughter process. For Halal meat and poultry processing, the Muslim slaughterman is required to acknowledge God's Creation and to thank God for providing sustenance by reciting a prayer before each and every slaughter with the statement, “In the name of God – God is the Greatest - Bismillahi Allahu Akbar.”

    The Shochet, or Jewish slaughterman does not and is not, required to invoke God's name on each animal before each slaughter.

    Now, in the UK, apparently it is an issue. Why? I don't know. Different countries get different hairs up their ass. But I can only say that the purpose of Halal and Kosher is to avoid animal pain and consumption of blood. There are differences about what parts are edible but that's not the main point.


    I said:
    Halal is just like Kosher. The most merciful way of slaughtering an animal. If the animal experiences ANY pain, it is NOT Halal or Kosher.
    That's completely untrue.
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    The form of preparing halal meat is done by exsanguinating the animal while alive. Not to mention that there is a whole ritual that comes along with the way the animal needs to be killed.

    I am not saying kosher is better. I just don't know all the details about kosher and how its made. The only reason I know what halal is and why it is considered to be a brutal, barbaric ritual is because of the scandal with the halal meat and its concealment from the general public in the UK a few years ago. I never heard of the jews pushing a kosher only meat agenda. I know there is kosher food, but again, its not like it was in the UK.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    That's completely untrue.

    The form of preparing halal meat is done by exsanguinating the animal while alive. Not to mention that there is a whole ritual that comes along with the way the animal needs to be killed.

    I am not saying kosher is better. I just don't know all the details about kosher and how its made. The only reason I know what halal is and why it is considered to be a brutal, barbaric ritual is because of the scandal with the halal meat and its concealment from the general public in the UK a few years ago. I never heard of the jews pushing a kosher only meat agenda. I know there is kosher food, but again, its not like it was in the UK.

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    Re: Deal approved in Muslims' suit against McDonald's

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So do you run around all day condemning white christian terrorists like those who bomb and shoot abortion providers? Why do you expect more from others?
    If I remember correctly, the anti-abortion movement did get tons of flack for not outright condemning the people carrying out violence for their cause, and rightly so. Also, I am unsure christian terrorism is on par with what we see from the islamic world.

    But with that said, Islamic leaders have condemned such attacks

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    Re: Deal approved in Muslims' suit against McDonald's

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    Because you are a poster child for racism, and it shows right here?
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    Re: Deal approved in Muslims' suit against McDonald's

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    What race did he post against?
    He posted against an ethnic group, ie "Muslims".

    Ethnicity, or ethnic identity, refers to membership in a particular cultural group. It is defined by shared cultural practises, including but not limited to holidays, food, language, and customs.

    Some definitions of racism also include discriminatory behaviors and beliefs based on cultural, national, ethnic, caste, or religious stereotypes
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    Re: Deal approved in Muslims' suit against McDonald's

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    If I remember correctly, the anti-abortion movement did get tons of flack for not outright condemning the people carrying out violence for their cause, and rightly so. Also, I am unsure christian terrorism is on par with what we see from the islamic world.

    But with that said, Islamic leaders have condemned such attacks
    They should not have. I do not remember it. It was pretty roundly condemned once, much like Muslims condemned 9/11 and the Boston attack. Neither group should have to daily announce their opposition to terror, which is about what it would take to satisfy Zimmer, except then he would claim they where insincere.
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