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Nonpartisan review concludes Bush knowingly ordered torture

Bronson said:
Waterboarding is not torture. There were physicians on scene making sure there was no immediate health risk
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Physical health risks. As the old saying goes, the worst scars are the ones you don't see.

Seriously, mental health. Look it up. If you honestly are going to tell me that waterboarding doesn't cause any pain, than you should just log off, go sit down and think this over.



I have no doubt you would pay to watch Limbaugh waterboarded.
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I have no love for Rush, but I also have no hate. He is simply another human to me.

You're happy you're causing me psychological harm man. I thought you knew yourself better than I do? :lol::lol:
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Your second sentence doesn't make a damn bit of sense. How is that comparable?
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Physical health risks. As the old saying goes, the worst scars are the ones you don't see.

Seriously, mental health. Look it up. If you honestly are going to tell me that waterboarding doesn't cause any pain, than you should just log off, go sit down and think this over.
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Laughable

You can't prove that waterboarding causes permanent physical damage. You're reduced to having everyone try to feel empathy for a terrorists mental health. it's embarrassing.


I have no love for Rush, but I also have no hate. He is simply another human to me.
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Yea ok sure


Your second sentence doesn't make a damn bit of sense. How is that comparable?
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As the old saying goes, the worst scars are the ones you don't see. :lol::lol::lol:

Anyways, feel free to continue to pad your post count while I laugh at you
 
Bronson said:
Laughable

You can't prove that waterboarding causes permanent physical damage. You're reduced to having everyone try to feel empathy for a terrorists mental health. it's embarrassing.
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No I am not feeling for empathy. I've already posted that the definition of torture which clearly states MENTAL HEALTH is included.


As soon as you stop skirting around that we can move on.


Yea ok sure
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Glad you finally admitted it.




As the old saying goes, the worst scars are the ones you don't see. :lol::lol::lol:

Anyways, feel free to continue to pad your post count while I laugh at you
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It must look weird to people walking past just to see you staring at a computer screen while laughing at seemingly nothing. Might want to stop before people get worried.
 
I think waterboarding the top 3 terrorists in custody immediately following 911 constitutes a 'ticking time bomb' scenario. They were not 'tortured' for confessions but for verifiable information.
 
Paschendale said:
Maybe he should be, and this is a racial thought, prosecuted for this. People talk about wanting to impeach Obama for attempting to support legislation that they feel conflicts with the second amendment. How about punishing a president for directly giving the order to violate the eighth amendment?
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The eighth amendment only applies if you're a US citizen.
 
ecofarm said:
I think waterboarding the top 3 terrorists in custody immediately following 911 constitutes a 'ticking time bomb' scenario. They were not 'tortured' for confessions but for verifiable information.
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Oh are we stall calling water boarding torture? I thought we grew out of that phase. I guess I was wrong.
 
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OMG graphic picture QUICK we need someone to edit this content out of your post!!


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Please, give me a ****in brake, that's not torture.
 
AlabamaPaul said:
Are you insinuating we currently torture members of our military?
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If we water board our own armed forces, then yes, however that is done with their consent and for training purposes, if I recall correctly.

An important factor is that torture is for "Infliction of severe physical pain as a means of punishment or coercion.", so while our troops may undergo a process that is used for torture, they were not directly tortured, or at least not by that definition.
 
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Jredbaron96 said:
If we water board our own armed forces, then yes, however that is done with their consent and for training purposes, if I recall correctly.
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You should know that when you enter, you have no consent as to your training. It is what it is...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
You should know that when you enter, you have no consent as to your training. It is what it is...
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You consent when you sign up. You place yourself voluntarily under the command of the US Armed Forces.
 
Jerry said:
The eighth amendment only applies if you're a US citizen.
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Eighth Amendment said:
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
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Wanna point out the part of the amendment that says that? That sounds like a list of things that the US government is not allowed to do, to me. No mention of "only don't do those things to certain people."
 
Jerry said:
The eighth amendment only applies if you're a US citizen.
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What about the second? Or the first? Is it OK to restrict free practice of religion by non-citizens?

That is the biggest crap I've seen. Where in the Constitution does it say that?
 
Bronson said:
I have no doubt you would pay to watch Limbaugh waterboarded. The Left cheers and laughs whenever a Conservative dies or gets seriously injured.
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But it's not torture so why would we cheer?
 
Bronson said:
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If Obama waterboarded Rush Limbaugh the Left would rationalize it and justify it. They would applaud it.
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Yeah, but it's not like Limbaugh would be tortured. Nothing wrong with it, so nothing to justify.
 
I believe water boarding to be torture and that only fools are convinced by repeated falsehoods.

I also believe the "ticking time-bomb scenario" to be bull****, if your hypothetical Jack Bauer is really that certain he can save lives by doing something cruel or illegal then he should do it and if he's wrong on his head (or his job) be it; It shouldn't be policy to give up the moral high ground.
 
head of joaquin said:
Bush and Cheney brought complete shame on the US and tainted our claim to supporting the rule of law for decades to come.
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O please. How about you apply those same standards to a President who hunts down Americans and executes them without a trial ?
 
rocket88 said:
What is it then, a hobby?
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" Osama's dead, GM lives "

One of those was accomplished with "waterboarding " and the other was accomplished with borrowed tax payers monies.
 
Fenton said:
O please. How about you apply those same standards to a President who hunts down Americans and executes them without a trial ?
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Hey, it's not like we can send the LAPD into Yemen.
 
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