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    Arkansas TV stations pull ad criticizing Exxon after legal threats

    A satirical ad criticizing Exxon Mobil that was set to air this week on Arkansas TV stations was pulled at the last minute after the company threatened legal action.

    The 30-second, crowd-funded ad, titled "Exxon Hates Your Children," is part of a campaignorganized by three groups targeting the $10 billion per year U.S. taxpayers spend to subsidize Exxon and other fossil-fuel industry giants. Oil Change International, The Other 98%, andEnvironmental Action accuse the company of acting like a bully.

    In its latest cease-and-desist memo, Exxon says the ad "is based entirely on factual inaccuracy, nonsensical and illogical statements, and is defamatory toward each of ExxonMobil's 90,000 global employees and their families."


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    Really dont see whats so different from this ad and the ads ran on campaign years..


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    Re: Arkansas TV stations pull ad criticizing Exxon after legal threats

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Really dont see whats so different from this ad and the ads ran on campaign years..
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    The difference is billions of dollars in wealth, which in the US means absolute and ultimate power.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Arkansas TV stations pull ad criticizing Exxon after legal threats

    I would imagine it is not the ad, but the website title, that got it pulled.

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    Re: Arkansas TV stations pull ad criticizing Exxon after legal threats

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @ and video @: [/FONT]Arkansas TV stations pull ad criticizing Exxon after legal threats

    Really dont see whats so different from this ad and the ads ran on campaign years..
    The ad almost certainly violates truth-in-advertising laws. In part, the ad states, "Exxon uses its billions to hire high-priced lawyers to make scary-sounding but unsupported legal claims to suppress criticism."

    By definition, if the legal claims were truly "unsupported," the relevant judgments would all be rendered against Exxon unless the U.S. legal system were incompetent. That has not happened with respect to the judgments. The premise that the outcome is the result of an incompetent legal system would be even more difficult to demonstrate. Hence, at least on the surface, it appears that those placing the ad would have difficulty proving its factual basis. Without such basis, the ad would be deceptive, at a minimum.

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    Re: Arkansas TV stations pull ad criticizing Exxon after legal threats

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    The ad almost certainly violates truth-in-advertising laws. In part, the ad states, "Exxon uses its billions to hire high-priced lawyers to make scary-sounding but unsupported legal claims to suppress criticism."

    By definition, if the legal claims were truly "unsupported," the relevant judgments would all be rendered against Exxon unless the U.S. legal system were incompetent. That has not happened with respect to the judgments. The premise that the outcome is the result of an incompetent legal system would be even more difficult to demonstrate. Hence, at least on the surface, it appears that those placing the ad would have difficulty proving its factual basis. Without such basis, the ad would be deceptive, at a minimum.
    Does anyone think that the guy in the ad is actually from Exxon?

    Is there a real danger of reasonable people thinking that this is something other than a parody?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Arkansas TV stations pull ad criticizing Exxon after legal threats

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Does anyone think that the guy in the ad is actually from Exxon?

    Is there a real danger of reasonable people thinking that this is something other than a parody?
    I didn't, but I suspect that the court felt that regardless of the parody, the underlying claim was not factual.

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    Re: Arkansas TV stations pull ad criticizing Exxon after legal threats

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I didn't, but I suspect that the court felt that regardless of the parody, the underlying claim was not factual.
    The underlying claim that Exxon hates our children?

    I am not really seeing the distinction between this commercial which seems a blatant parody and thousands and thousands of political cartoons over the years. I don't see the characteristic which distinguishes this ad from countless other examples of expression which also use hyperbole.

    Has Exxon taken any steps to prevent the group from posting and spreading that video in venues outside of television stations? Sent a cease and desist to ExxonHatesYourChildren.com or anything of that sort?

    The EFF attorney, Corryne McSherry, notes that Exxon has not contacted ExxonHatesYourChildren.com
    http://priceofoil.org/wp-content/upl...onCampaign.pdf
    Sadly, ExxonMobil has chosen not to raise its concerns with my client directly. Instead, it appears that Exxon is trying to suppress my client's critical speech by indirectly threatening television stations that are considering whether to air the advertisement with the specter that the ad is "defamatory."

    The veracity of the ad doesn't change with the medium in which it exists. Imho, any claims against the ad based on veracity may well be just as valid w/o regard to whether or not the medium is TV. Afaict anyway.
    I may be wrong.

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