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    Outraged Liberals Say Obama Is About To Screw Over The People Who Got Him Elected

    Outraged Liberals Are Threatening To Turn On Obama Over Social Security Cuts - Business Insider

    Liberals descended on Pennsylvania Avenue Tuesday to protest President Barack Obama´s decision to include entitlement cuts in his upcoming budget, delivering 2 million petitions demanding the White House back off its support for the chained CPI. As we reported this weekend, liberals have been seething over the inclusion of the chained CPI in Obama´s budget, which they see as a huge betrayal by the Democratic president.
    Even a very mild cut in entitlements is anathema to these people. I guess it simply comes down to whether or not they get "their" money. They could care less what else is at stake; whether their own children and grandchildren will have a pot to pee in.

    Republicans should take note here of the willingness these people are showing to compromise and realize that the way forward will not be one of butterflies and unicorns.

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    Re: Outraged Liberals Say Obama Is About To Screw Over The People Who Got Him Elected

    There are a few truisms about Obama:
    1. Liberals will never turn on him no matter what he does.
    2. He is related to Dick Cheney and they are of like minds.

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    Re: Outraged Liberals Say Obama Is About To Screw Over The People Who Got Him Elected

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    Even a very mild cut in entitlements is anathema to these people. I guess it simply comes down to whether or not they get "their" money. They could care less what else is at stake; whether their own children and grandchildren will have a pot to pee in.

    Republicans should take note here of the willingness these people are showing to compromise and realize that the way forward will not be one of butterflies and unicorns.
    I will be directly effected by the CPI, but if this brings about the change that is needed to make SS more solvent for the future, then I support it.
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    Re: Outraged Liberals Say Obama Is About To Screw Over The People Who Got Him Elected

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    Even a very mild cut in entitlements is anathema to these people. I guess it simply comes down to whether or not they get "their" money. They could care less what else is at stake; whether their own children and grandchildren will have a pot to pee in.

    Republicans should take note here of the willingness these people are showing to compromise and realize that the way forward will not be one of butterflies and unicorns.
    The way I see it -- if a budget proposal manages to piss off the right and the left simultaneously, it's obviously a good idea.


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    Re: Outraged Liberals Say Obama Is About To Screw Over The People Who Got Him Elected

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The way I see it -- if a budget proposal manages to piss off the right and the left simultaneously, it's obviously a good idea.
    Spending goes up, taxes go up, and benefits go down. Everybody pissed, and no issues addressed.

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    Re: Outraged Liberals Say Obama Is About To Screw Over The People Who Got Him Elected

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Spending goes up, taxes go up, and benefits go down. Everybody pissed, and no issues addressed.
    Some spending goes up, some goes down, overall my understanding is that it's supposed to trim 1 trillion off the deficit over 10 years.

    Republicans raise spending plenty, they just don't think anybody should pay for it. It's either "tax and spend" or "don't tax, but spend anyway."


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    Re: Outraged Liberals Say Obama Is About To Screw Over The People Who Got Him Elected

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Some spending goes up, some goes down, overall my understanding is that it's supposed to trim 1 trillion off the deficit over 10 years.

    Republicans raise spending plenty, they just don't think anybody should pay for it. It's either "tax and spend" or "don't tax, but spend anyway."
    I prefer the wipe the slate clean and start over approach. Latest GAO report shows anywhere between 100-250 billion in duplicated programs and wasted spending per year.

    Need to start fresh.

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    Re: Outraged Liberals Say Obama Is About To Screw Over The People Who Got Him Elected

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    Even a very mild cut in entitlements is anathema to these people. I guess it simply comes down to whether or not they get "their" money. They could care less what else is at stake; whether their own children and grandchildren will have a pot to pee in.

    Republicans should take note here of the willingness these people are showing to compromise and realize that the way forward will not be one of butterflies and unicorns.
    Yet another Obama budget proposal that increases both federal spending and federal taxes, thus it is "balanced"! In Obama land "entitlements" are those federal programs that are paid for, in advance, by payroll taxes (SS/Medicare) and earned by contributors, never those federal "safety net" programs that are based on low income.
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    Re: Outraged Liberals Say Obama Is About To Screw Over The People Who Got Him Elected

    Cost of Living adjustments are not the make it or break it for Social Security. Having as many people on it as off it working will be.

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    Re: Outraged Liberals Say Obama Is About To Screw Over The People Who Got Him Elected

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Some spending goes up, some goes down, overall my understanding is that it's supposed to trim 1 trillion off the deficit over 10 years.

    Republicans raise spending plenty, they just don't think anybody should pay for it. It's either "tax and spend" or "don't tax, but spend anyway."
    Federal spending went up from 20% of GDP to 24% of GDP in 2008/9, basically doubling the federal deficit. We are now gradually increasing taxes (now at 17% of GDP) but not nearly enough to catch up with the spending increases. Nobody is proposing that we increase federal taxation to 24% of GDP, or that we reduce federal spending back to 20% of GDP. At no point is the Obama budget ever going to "balance". Talk of trimming the defict by $1 trillion over a decade (basically a 10% cut) is also the same as saying we will increase the national debt by over $8 trillion in that same decade (instead of $9 trillion), it simply sounds better to spin it as a defict reduction plan.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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