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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Thanks for the view of those who profit from gun sales.

    I'll go with the investigation by the police, as referenced above:

    "In a probe of illegal online firearm sales conducted by the City of New York, undercover investigators found that 62% of private gun sellers they interacted with were willing to sell guns to a buyer who said he could not pass a background check."
    that is irrelevant

    the relevant facts include

    of the 2 million (according to Chris Matthews on MSNBC and according to the Turd who is the spokesman for "mayors against constitutional rights or whatever those assholes with bloomturd call themselves) people who LIED on a background check less than one tenth of one percent were even prosecuted

    secondly, there is no evidence that stopping those '2 million' people had any beneficial value

    why do you want laws that have no empirical chance of stopping any crime?

    why do you support passing laws that will not be enforced?



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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Thanks for the view of those who profit from gun sales.

    I'll go with the investigation by the police, as referenced above:

    "In a probe of illegal online firearm sales conducted by the City of New York, undercover investigators found that 62% of private gun sellers they interacted with were willing to sell guns to a buyer who said he could not pass a background check."
    Arrest them, make an example out of them.

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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    What's in the deal for pro-gun? What are we getting that we didn't have before? Anti-gun gets background checks, and pro-gun gets... assault rifles?....national reciprocity for CCW permits?....elimination of some gun-free zones?....silencers without any paperwork? What?
    Your reaction is very understandable. The gun lobby and gun culture have gotten things so much their way over the last decade that giving in a small amount on something they previously supported seems like a bad deal for them.
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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your reaction is very understandable. The gun lobby and gun culture have gotten things so much their way over the last decade that giving in a small amount on something they previously supported seems like a bad deal for them.
    What did we get in the last decade? And why should we ever give up anything, ever, anyway?

    Private citizens have the right to own unregistered modern machine guns. Anything short of that is oppression.

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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your reaction is very understandable. The gun lobby and gun culture have gotten things so much their way over the last decade that giving in a small amount on something they previously supported seems like a bad deal for them.
    if the gun lobby had its way as you claim there would be no federal gun control laws since none of them have any proper constitutional support. the anti gun haters of the constitution are the ones who have gotten their way



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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Arrest them, make an example out of them.
    That is the plan.
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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That is the plan.
    Then you don't need new laws. I'm glad I could finally talk you out of new gun controls.

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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Then you don't need new laws. I'm glad I could finally talk you out of new gun controls.
    The new laws (if passed) will reduce the numbers of guns being sold without any questions asked.
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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    "The agreement will “prevent criminals and the mentally ill from getting firearms and harming people,” Senator Joe Manchin, a West Virginia Democrat, told reporters today. Senator Pat Toomey, a Pennsylvania Republican, joined him at a news conference in Washington."

    “I don’t consider criminal background checks to be gun control; it’s just common sense,” Toomey said. “It’s the people who fail a criminal or mental-health background check that we don’t want having guns.”

    Toomey’s backing may help draw the support of Republicans and Democrats from pro-gun states. Manchin has an “A” rating from the pro-gun-rights National Rifle Association. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, scheduled a procedural vote tomorrow on the gun legislation, which also would crack down on firearms trafficking and increase funding for school safety."

    See the video of the announcement of the proposed bipartisan background check law here -

    Senators Announce Agreement to Expand Gun Checks - Bloomberg
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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The new laws (if passed) will reduce the numbers of guns being sold without any questions asked.
    How?

    Walk me through the process. Let's say that I have a gun that you would like to buy. Let's say that you happen to be in SD and we meet up. What happens?

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