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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The video talks about all guns semi auto and auto guns alike.
    You cannot buy a full-auto gun at a gun show.

    Your video tells you that it's illegal to sell to someone you believe wouldn't pass an NICS. So, the easy answer is to make examples out of sellers who brake the law.

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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You cannot buy a full-auto gun at a gun show.
    I know i stated that...


    Your video tells you that it's illegal to sell to someone you believe wouldn't pass an NICS. So, the easy answer is to make examples out of sellers who brake the law.
    SO how do you punish someone who "thought" wrong?


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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    SO how do you punish someone who "thought" wrong?
    An investigator uses a hidden camera and poses as a buyer to capture a vendor stating that he doesn't care that the undercover investigator says cannot pass an NICS. Then the investigator makes the sale, then arrests the vendor in front of everyone making sure everyone knows why, the ATF confiscates his inventory and brings him up on charges.
    Last edited by Jerry; 04-10-13 at 04:25 AM.

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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    An investigator use a hidden camera and pose as a buyer to capture a vendor stating that he doesn't care that the undercover investigator cannot pass an NICS. Then the investigator makes the sale, then arrests the vendor in front of everyone making sure everyone knows why, you confiscate his inventory and bring him up on charges.
    What happens beyond the investigation to the rest of 99.999999999999999% of sellers and buyers? How does one "think" that someone might not pass the check? How does one prosecute someone who "thought" wrong? Sounds like a weak law made on purpose...


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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What happens beyond the investigation to the rest of [the] of sellers and buyers?
    More enforcement, as required.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    How does one "think" that someone might not pass the check?
    Ask. "Do you believe you can pass a background check?" Didn't you watch your video? The investigator told a vendor that he couldn't pass a background check and then the vendor refused to sell to him saying it was illegal.

    This is super simple stuff.

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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its looking pretty good that there will actually be a vote on this in the Senate and each Senator is going to have to take a stand on background checks, one way or the other. This going to be interesting and could have residual effects in the 2014 election!
    It definitely will. Gun Owners have a long history of long memories. Just ask Mr. Clinton and the Democratic controlled Congress of 1993-94 about that.

    Regardless of whether or not I agree with anything in that bill, it's a complete and total waste of time. Even if it was to pass and be signed into law, it would be ignored, just like all the existing firearms legislation that we have out there already. It's a political grandstanding ploy and nothing more. Besides, many of us gunowners would simply ignore the new legislation anyway.

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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I know i stated that...



    SO how do you punish someone who "thought" wrong?
    First, you beat them to death with political correctness. Then, you accuse them of every vile thing on earth and spread it across the media. Finally, you point out that they are old, white, and reactionary, they don't pay their fair share, and they hide money somewhere. That ought to do it.

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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    First, you beat them to death with political correctness. Then, you accuse them of every vile thing on earth and spread it across the media. Finally, you point out that they are old, white, and reactionary, they don't pay their fair share, and they hide money somewhere. That ought to do it.
    I am impressed with how effortlessly you cover all the important things that Dems need to remember! It's a gift few have....

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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I am impressed with how effortlessly you cover all the important things that Dems need to remember! It's a gift few have....
    Well, I have the play book. I colored all the pictures in a long time ago and had it framed cause I stayed inside the lines on that one. It's hard to forget success like that.

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    Re: Joe Manchin says on verge of gun deal

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Well, I have the play book. I colored all the pictures in a long time ago and had it framed cause I stayed inside the lines on that one. It's hard to forget success like that.
    My sides still hurt from laughing at this response...

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