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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Fair enough. By the way, if words mean things and words matter, it would be "break it down". Just saying. Also, suicide is not homicide, homicide is killing another person, not yourself. As you said, words matter.
    I am what happens when a teacher takes a child from the deep south and tells him to "sound out the words". Be thankful Chrome catches most of my errors.

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    But my mistaking homicide and murder, while a good catch on your part and ignorance on mine, doesn't change the point of the message, which is guns are responsible for nearly 70% of homicides in America. Surely we can look at that and say SOMETHING is wrong.
    No, guns are not responsible. Guns can't think. Gun's can't be responsible for anything. Your car is not responsible for your bad driving; that's all on you.

    People are responsible, and so the law needs to address the people.

    My ideas for solving the problem:
    • Initiate a national "Broken Windows Theory" campaign; a program which worked miracles in NY.
    • Remove programs which brake up households.
    • Re-stigmatize pregnancy outside of marriage.
    • Require homes which house someone with mental health problems to temporally disarm until the person is cleared by their doctor or leaves the home.
    • Pass Federal Castle Doctrine eliminating 90% of all gun free zones, allowing anyone who can legally carry a gun a t all, to carry wherever that person has a legal right to be, such as to work, to collage, to their children's school, to a theater, or to the mall; and exempting them and the property owner from all liability if a shooting is otherwise lawful.

    Ever wonder why Buddhists don't murder even-though their monasteries are full of all manor of melee weapons? Oh but we can't have religion in America, certainly not in our schools, no....and then we wonder why all kinds of crime goes up.

    The problem is with our culture. If you had a population filled only of peaceable citizens, you could arm them to the teeth and there would be no crime. The opposite is also true, that is you have a population full of hateful people, you could remove all weapons from them and they will still war. This is why prisoners become quite inventive at hand making weapons.
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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I am what happens when a teacher takes a child from the deep south and tells him to "sound out the words". Be thankful Chrome catches most of my errors.


    I legitimately chuckled. I assume you meant that to be lighthearted, because I thought it was funny.

    No, guns are not responsible. Guns can't think. Gun's can't be responsible for anything.
    You're playing word games here. But fine, I'll clarify. 70% of the homicides were committed with a gun.

    My ideas for solving the problem:
    • Initiate a national "Broken Windows Theory" campaign; a program which worked miracles in NY.
    • Remove programs which brake up households.
    • Re-stigmatize pregnancy outside of marriage.
    • Require homes which house someone with mental health problems to temporally disarm until the person is cleared by their doctor or leaves the home.
    • Pass Federal Castle Doctrine eliminating 90% of all gun free zones, allowing anyone who can legally carry a gun a t all, to carry wherever that person has a legal right to be, such as to work, to collage, to their children's school, to a theater, or to the mall; and exempting them and the property owner from all liability if a shooting is otherwise lawful.


    Ever wonder why Buddhists don't murder even-though their monasteries are full of all manor of melee weapons? Oh but we can't have religion in America, certainly not in our schools, no....and then we wonder why all kinds of crime goes up.
    I thought gun supporters told me crime has gone down? *shrug*

    The problem is with our culture.
    Absolutely it is. Is it any wonder a culture which glorifies gun violence is a victim of gun violence? Kids play the games, rappers create the "music" (and I use the word music loosely), Hollywood sells guns and tough guys...is it any wonder we suffer from a gun problem?

    But the gun culture isn't going to be solved by putting my guns into society. Americans love guns, we idolize them, we care more about guns than we do people. Pro gun supporters have a serious problem with a gun registry but don't make a sound about the fact AMERICANS are registered with the government, which is a FAR bigger privacy concern. I agree with you our problem is with our culture. We very much have a gun culture in America and we romanticize the gun. We're "tough guys" because we can shoot and kill people.

    If you had a population filled only of peaceable citizens, you could arm them to the teeth and there would be no crime.
    Of course, just like if we could remove all guns everywhere, we'd never have anyone shot.

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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post

    I legitimately chuckled. I assume you meant that to be lighthearted, because I thought it was funny.
    That was my intent. On the one hand, words matter, but on the other hand, if English as a language isn't going to follow it's own rules, then why should I have to?

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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That was my intent. On the one hand, words matter, but on the other hand, if English as a language isn't going to follow it's own rules, then why should I have to?
    A question which has plagued spelling and grammar teachers for decades.

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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    You're playing word games here.
    I'm not trying to play a word games there, but I understand how that post could be taken that way.

    That's what that phase means. "Guns are responsible". That's "transference". You're a teacher you know all about this. As a nation we are justifiably disgusted with certain behavior, but instead of owning it, we redirect our feelings onto other people ("the far right", as Catawba says) or objects; guns. We saw the same thing a few years ago when the media would report on a car accident by describing "the SUV crossed into oncoming traffic" or "the SUV failed to stop at a red light". And this was an obvious trend at the time, to describe the incident as though the SUV, not the driver, was responsible.

    As a nation we act out against the guns so that we can feel better about what happened. But we're not doing anything about the problem. We are the problem.

    In the same way, people will use games (or Facebook) to simulate work, instead of actually working, and then blame the game when nothing is accomplished.
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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's what that phase means. "Guns are responsible". That's "transference". You're a teacher you know all about this. As a nation we are justifiably disgusted with certain behavior, but instead of owning it, we redirect our feelings onto other people ("the far right", as Catawba says) or objects; guns.
    The problem is guns ARE killing these people. Yes, a person is pulling the trigger, but they are pulling a trigger and not tightening a noose or pushing them out of windows. And the reason more people choose to use a gun than something else is the relative ease in killing someone with a gun.

    So while I understand the point you're making, it's also not an untrue statement to say guns are, at the very least, partly responsible. After all, Adam Lanza would have been very unlikely to kill 20+ people in only a few minutes with a pillow (which has been used to kill people).

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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    The problem is guns ARE killing these people. Yes, a person is pulling the trigger, but they are pulling a trigger and not tightening a noose or pushing them out of windows. And the reason more people choose to use a gun than something else is the relative ease in killing someone with a gun.

    So while I understand the point you're making, it's also not an untrue statement to say guns are, at the very least, partly responsible. After all, Adam Lanza would have been very unlikely to kill 20+ people in only a few minutes with a pillow (which has been used to kill people).
    The mass-killer weapon of choice is the home-made bomb, so the logical assumption is if Adam Lansa didn't have a gun, he would have made a bomb. He didn't just snap, he planned this out and obsessed over it for a long time, just like the CO shooter.

    http://chronicle.com/blogs/conversat...ass-shootings/

    Also, remember that the rifle Adam used was bought during an assault-weapon ban and was not an "assault weapon".

    Adam Lansa was determined to attack this school no matter what.
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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The mass-killer weapon of choice is the home-made bomb, so the logical assumption is if Adam Lansa didn't have a gun, he would have made a bomb.
    But I'm not talking about mass killers, and Adam Lanza didn't make a bomb.

    Also, remember that the rifle Adam used was bought during an assault-weapon ban and was not an "assault weapon".
    I'm not really concerned right now by what type of gun he used, but rather the fact he used guns to commit homicide, contributing to the statistic of 70% of homicides done by guns.

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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I'm not really concerned right now by what type of gun he used, but rather the fact he used guns to commit homicide, contributing to the statistic of 70% of homicides done by guns.
    You're ignoring everything I say again.

    Just tell us about your plan to ban exacto knives, since that was the weapon used in OP's story for this thread.

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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You're ignoring everything I say again.
    I'm not at all. You claimed the norm shows Lanza would have made a bomb. That is irrelevant to my comment which is that a pillow could not kill 26 people in only a few minutes. I know many bomb making supplies are already regulated and I'm just fine with stricter regulation on those as well.

    The point I'm making is the gun is clearly superior to kill than a pillow, or basically any other weapon. It's easy to use and easy to kill with. I'm not talking about this specific incident and how to prevent it, I'm using this specific incident as an example to the point about how easy it is to kill with a gun.

    You also made some statement about the gun Lanza used, but I did not understand why you thought it was relevant at all, much less to my argument about how easy it is to kill with a gun.

    Just tell us about your plan to ban exacto knives, since that was the weapon used in OP's story for this thread.
    How many people died from the Exacto knife?

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