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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

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    Don't let the door hit you... Remind me again of all the wonderful legislation republicans have supported for children.
    Republicans have tried to prevent government job killing policies, so Americans could go back work and support their families.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    No abortions
    And they can't even get that one right.

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    Republicans have tried to prevent government job killing policies, so Americans could go back work and support their families.
    Let me guess...so they can "put food on their families"?

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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

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    Armed teachers for safer schools,.
    Yes because more guns mean safer schools...

    Jesus you righties sure have some twisted ideas. That NRA tea you're drinking is pure swill.

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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

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    Yes because more guns mean safer schools.
    That's why you don't see mass shootings in schools which allow concealed guns. Glad we could agree
    Last edited by Jerry; 04-10-13 at 11:09 PM.

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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Yes because more guns mean safer schools...

    Jesus you righties sure have some twisted ideas. That NRA tea you're drinking is pure swill.
    we get the fact you like defenseless school children guarded by unarmed adults because that leads to massacres people like you can use to whine about the NRA (mainly because the NRA does not fund candidates who cater to your agenda)

    You pretend to labor under the delusion that disarming innocent people will somehow disarm killers. In reality I know you don't believe that But you don't push gun bans because you really care about public safety either



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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

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    And they can't even get that one right.
    I agree, liberals are very confused

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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    As for your opinion on guns being too easy to use to kill, you still have to admit that they can not do it without first being loaded, the safeties disabled and the trigger pulled.
    Of course. But considering all of this can be done by an 8 year old, I don't think it changes my "opinion" on guns being too easy to use to kill.

    You can kill somebody with a car very easily and quickly as well.
    I know the pro gun crowd is very fond of using other items to compare, but it's always a poor argument. The gun's main purpose is to shoot, and with handguns (and I'd argue semi-automatic "assault rifles" as well), the object is to shoot people (whether you are shooting in aggression or self-defense). Even if some people use the gun for other purposes, the primary intention of the gun is to shoot people. The primary purpose of a car is not to run over people. The primary purpose of a car is transportation.

    I'm all for improving safety in cars. But I'm in favor of safety in general and large magazines in rapid fire rifles and handguns which account for something around 80% of homicides (the number I've heard, I don't know the exact number) clearly do not suggest safety to me.

    The percentage of guns used to kill is miniscule.
    But of the people who are murdered, the percentage who are murdered by firearm is outrageous. Here's the first source I found when Googling "usa homicides":

    2010:

    Homicides in the USA: 16,259
    Homicide by firearm: 11,078

    FASTSTATS - Homicide

    Almost 70% of the murders in the United States were done by firearm in 2010. And to prevent an Archie Bunker, no I would not feel any better if "they was pushed out of windows". But surely we can look at those numbers and say SOMETHING should be done.

    And yet the proposed legislation is to take away something that is far less deadly in real life as other methods and it is pushed by exploiting the death of children.
    A handgun ban will not pass and is very unlikely to be survive a Supreme Court ruling if it did. So let's take care of at least part of the problem.

    But if we actually talk about how to reduce child death, well, according to the left we are off subject.
    But the point I was making was that after correctly assessing how silly it was to say certain people don't care about children, you turned around and did the exact same thing.

    So the discussion is at it's very base a lie, which is one reason opposition is so high. I'm suggesting an honest discussion of how to save the most children. Those on the left have no interest in this discussion.
    And that's just incredibly false. I don't consider myself "left" on every issue, but I guess I am on this issue. And I care very much about saving lives, children and adults.

    Here's what I know. As the number of households which own a gun has decreased, so has crime (and yes, I know you would argue more guns during that time period). I know other countries have much lower gun homicide rates (and homicide rates in general). I know in 2010, roughly 70% of Americans who were murdered were killed by a gun (a statistic I'm fairly certain is consistent). At some point, don't we have to stop and say, "Maybe we should try something else"?

    The status quo isn't working. That is painfully obvious. The push to resist change just doesn't make sense to me when we CLEARLY have a problem. And arming teachers or beefing up security systems at schools does nothing for shopping malls, Wal-Mart, churches, domestic issues, etc. I'm looking to protect everyone as a whole, not just focus on one area.

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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    2010:

    Homicides in the USA: 16,259
    Homicide by firearm: 11,078

    FASTSTATS - Homicide

    Almost 70% of the murders in the United States were done by firearm in 2010.
    Your source doesn't say "murder", it says "homicide". When a woman legally kills a rapist, that's homicide. When a cop legally kills a drunk with a knife, that's homicide. Suicide, is homicide. There's lots of different kinds of homicide under the law because homicide just means that someone caused a person's death. Homicide doesn't mean anyone did anything wrong.

    What kind of homicides compose this 70%, and make sure to also account for the different degrees for each kind of homicide. Brake it down.

    Words mean things. Words matter.
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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Your source doesn't say "murder", it says "homicide". When a woman legally kills a rapist, that's homicide. When a cop legally kills a drunk with a knife, that's homicide. Suicide, is homicide. There's lots of different kinds of homicide under the law because homicide just means that someone caused a person's death. Homicide doesn't mean anyone did anything wrong.

    What kind of homicides compose this 70%, and make sure to also account for the different degrees for each kind of homicide. Brake it down.

    Words mean things. Words matter.
    Fair enough. By the way, if words mean things and words matter, it would be "break it down". Just saying. Also, suicide is not homicide, homicide is killing another person, not yourself. As you said, words matter.

    But my mistaking homicide and murder, while a good catch on your part and ignorance on mine, doesn't change the point of the message, which is guns are responsible for nearly 70% of homicides in America. Surely we can look at that and say SOMETHING is wrong.

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