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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Inner-city gang violence.


    Exactly right.


    If you factor OUT inner city violence related to gangs and/or drugs, the US murder rate OTHERWISE is much more comparable to other Western nations.

    It isn't the guns. What do you have in gang-infested, drug-riddled inner cities?

    Gov't/LE is often corrupt or ineffective (see Chicago)... poverty/wealth inequality yes... gangs/factions yes... drug trades yes.... you have all the ingredients I spoke of as the commonality for high homicide rates.

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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

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    And that is the question. If crime is down while gun ownership is up then it isn't the guns. But people are going to skirt the real issues and hide behind their own agendas. There are deeper issues here. We have crumbling family structure, a decline in spirtual influence, an increase in the speed of available information leading to smaller personal worlds and a decrease in human interaction. But none of those issues will be addressed because they don't fit on a bunmper sticker and suggesting people put down their electronics and get to know their neighbors personally wouldn't be as much fun right this minute. That's what gets tiresome about this argument. Everybody posts their opinions on it based on their own opinions rather than honestly looking at all the evidence first.

    I'll give you an example. We are currently visiting my in laws. My wife is in the kitchen with her father making breakfast, I'm sitting on the couch typing on a Kindle and the kids are in to the second day of smashing things on a PS3 and a huge TV. Of the three kids one is playing, one is directing (it's his game so he knows where everything is) and the third is playing a handheld game waiting his turn to smash some more stuff. Anyone think there might be something wrong here? The kids of course will continue to smash stuff, but in a few minutes we'll be tuning in to see our pastors sermon for today. I'm jonesing to get home so I can get outside and get some work done. This all seems like a waste of time. Unfortunately this has become the new reality. These kids have shot thousands of people in the past 24 hours in a pretty realistic looking game and I'm sure that even after all this time when we break this party up there will be complaints.
    none of this is unique to the US. It is true of other countries with much lower murder rates.
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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Dunno. That's a question for sociologists to answer.



    Because, even though it's obviously the axe you have to grind, it's not the answer to the question you asked, no matter how badly you want it to be.

    (Never mind that those "studies" have uniformly turned out to be bogus.)
    oh ... I see ... all these studies are part of a giant conspiracy by leftist social scientists and other academics to deprive you of your toys.
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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Exactly right.


    If you factor OUT inner city violence related to gangs and/or drugs, the US murder rate OTHERWISE is much more comparable to other Western nations.

    It isn't the guns. What do you have in gang-infested, drug-riddled inner cities?

    Gov't/LE is often corrupt or ineffective (see Chicago)... poverty/wealth inequality yes... gangs/factions yes... drug trades yes.... you have all the ingredients I spoke of as the commonality for high homicide rates.

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    so why is poverty and inequality so much worse in the US than in other OECD countries?
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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    oh ... I see ... all these studies are part of a giant conspiracy by leftist social scientists and other academics to deprive you of your toys.
    No, they turned out to be bogus. "Conspiracy" is something you dragged into it.

    You apparently don't actually want to discuss this; you want things to be the way you want them to be, no matter what they actually are. Sorry, but the world just isn't the way you obviously wish it was.

    (And the rhetoric about "toys"? Not surprising you tip your hand so easily.)
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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    The problem with many "studies", they start off with an intended end and the evidence and conclusions are bent toward that end. It's sloppy lab work. And where is it taught? In universities which we should be able to agree are typically liberally biased. Any study should be scutinized for it's bias, just the fact that there are opposing conclusions in similiar studies proves bias, otherwise the results would all be the same every time. That's why the very concept of a "scientific concensus" should be dismissed. Real science has no opinion and therefore can not reach a concensus.

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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, they turned out to be bogus. "Conspiracy" is something you dragged into it.

    You apparently don't actually want to discuss this; you want things to be the way you want them to be, no matter what they actually are. Sorry, but the world just isn't the way you obviously wish it was.

    (And the rhetoric about "toys"? Not surprising you tip your hand so easily.)
    If you want to see the tables turned start a thread about the dangers of texting while driving and watch the young liberals who refer to guns as toys cry about not being allowed to play with their toys while driving for the public good. They will each try to explain how they possess superior multitasking skills (and indeed would do so to a cop who pulled them over for eradic driving), and how our wanting to limit such behavior is a personal attack on them.

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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    We were driving thru Atlanta last night on the way home. Anyone who has done this knows it can be a bit of a cluster**** with a lot of lanes and exchanges. We saw not one but two drivers running 70 - 80 mph, both all over and in one case out of their lane. when we got to go around them they were both texting. One at least had one hand on the wheel, the other was holding the phone with both hands. And there are signs along the road that warn that texting while driving is illegal. Maybe we need another law that says texting while driving is really REALLY illegal. That will stop them...

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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, they turned out to be bogus. "Conspiracy" is something you dragged into it.

    You apparently don't actually want to discuss this; you want things to be the way you want them to be, no matter what they actually are. Sorry, but the world just isn't the way you obviously wish it was.

    (And the rhetoric about "toys"? Not surprising you tip your hand so easily.)
    the inability to accept the results of evidence based research, and refer to it as "bogus" suggests a conspiracy fantasy.
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    Re: Stabbing injures several on Lone Star College Cy-Fair campus

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    The problem with many "studies", they start off with an intended end and the evidence and conclusions are bent toward that end. It's sloppy lab work. And where is it taught? In universities which we should be able to agree are typically liberally biased. Any study should be scutinized for it's bias, just the fact that there are opposing conclusions in similiar studies proves bias, otherwise the results would all be the same every time. That's why the very concept of a "scientific concensus" should be dismissed. Real science has no opinion and therefore can not reach a concensus.
    don't understand much about social research or universities, do you?
    Every political good carried to the extreme must be productive of evil.

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