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    Re: Assange unveils latest WikiLeaks release: Project K

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    He has no business organizing already declassified documents?
    1.) According to what you quoted.
    So what does this new leak mean ...

    A leak would indicate it was not legal.
    On that premiss, what I said was correct.


    2.) Assange says in the video this includes the previous leaked cables from "cablegate".
    On that premiss, what I said was correct.

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    Re: Assange unveils latest WikiLeaks release: Project K

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    1.) According to what you quoted.

    A leak would indicate it was not legal.
    On that premiss, what I said was correct.


    2.) Assange says in the video this includes the previous leaked cables from "cablegate".
    On that premiss, what I said was correct.
    There is so much information out there that it is near impossible to go through it all. It's nice to have one site to go to for the information I would like to read about.

    Also because there is so much information things that should be relevent can still be "hidden" even when declassified. After all, is there a government website that specifically mentions and shows everything that gets declassified...even if they just limit it to "with in the past month"? None that I know of. And the way the Freedom of Information act is worded in order to get any information out the government from it you have to ask for specific things.

    What wikileaks has done here is consolidate much of it and make it to where people can actually easily sift through things that they may want to try and find.

    Legally. What's wrong with that?
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    Re: Assange unveils latest WikiLeaks release: Project K

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    It's nice to have one site to go to for the information I would like to read about.
    Whether you would like to read about it or not, is not the issue.
    It is whether what he has made available was leaked information or not.
    The information that was officially released is fine. The information that was not released, is not fine.

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    Re: Assange unveils latest WikiLeaks release: Project K

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Whether you would like to read about it or not, is not the issue.
    It is whether what he has made available was leaked information or not.
    The information that was officially released is fine. The information that was not released, is not fine.
    Well, the information provided by wikileaks was posted by them in an orderly one stop shop place before anyone else so I guess technically they did "leak the story" first.
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    Re: Assange unveils latest WikiLeaks release: Project K

    I hear rumor that next week Wikileaks plans to release the complete synopsis of the final Harry Potter book!

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    Re: Assange unveils latest WikiLeaks release: Project K

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Well, the information provided by wikileaks was posted by them in an orderly one stop shop place before anyone else so I guess technically they did "leak the story" first.
    And they could have, and should have, left out any information that was not officially released.

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    Re: Assange unveils latest WikiLeaks release: Project K

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    And they could have, and should have, left out any information that was not officially released.
    Yes they could have. Should have? That is debateable.
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    Re: Assange unveils latest WikiLeaks release: Project K

    If people are that interested, watch C-Span and learn stuff about today.

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    Re: Assange unveils latest WikiLeaks release: Project K

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Whether you would like to read about it or not, is not the issue.
    It is whether what he has made available was leaked information or not.
    The information that was officially released is fine. The information that was not released, is not fine.
    This rather reminds me of the USSC case U.S. v Reynolds 345US1 from March of 1953. That was the first time the federal government invoked "National Security" in a court proceeding. It was a civil suit brought by the surviving family members of civilian engineers killed in the 1948 crash of a USAF B-29. The suit was brought under the Federal Tort Claims Act.

    The court ruled in favor of the government's claim about National Security, and the widows were not allowed to sue.

    The Washington Post issue of June 22, 2003 covers the story, entitled "An Injustice Wrapped in a Pretense."

    The case was classified, but in a funny turn of events, when those old court documents were converted to digital format, by error all the details ended up going public, on the internet. By accident some relatives of the surviving widows discovered it, and the cat was out of the proverbial bag.

    Bottom line, the "classified" documents were no more a threat to the National Security of the US than the man in the moon. It turns out the government lied to the court from the very first argument in the case.

    Moral of the story: classification is frequently, perhaps always, used to deceive the public, keep them in the dark, and protect the guilty parties.

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