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    Wussification of America

    I agree with Bolling's point yesterday about Americans becoming wussies and political correctness being a major source.

    There's the sense of entitlement since we don't let kid's experience failure nowadays. That includes things from not letting kids fail at school when their results are insufficient to handing out participation trophies. Some schools are even banning sporting activities to prevent anyone from feeling like a loser.

    We surrender to just about any complaint, rather that seeing if any of the responsibility falls on the complainant. For example, schools are removing a cross or picture of Jesus if one or two people complain, even if a hundred want it there. Someone needs to speak up and tell them to ignore it if they don't like it.

    You might say "the older generation always says the younger is worse." However, the upward trends for the numbers in divorce, kids born out of wedlock, government handouts, obesity, average age people live with parents until, etc. speak for themselves.

    What will it take to get society to acknowledge these mistakes and fix them? Feel free to add more.

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    Re: Wussification of America

    Mike Rice's firing has nothing to do with wussification and everything to do with abuse of power. There's a fine line between being tough on your players and being an abusive egomaniac. Eric Bolling is talking out of his ass.

    Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, Gregg Popovich didn't have to throw basketballs and verbally abuse their players to become winners and build their players into becoming winners.

    I'm not saying "wussification" isn't happening, but this isn't an example of it.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Wussification of America

    Unfortunately, I believe that it's a natural trend with a society such as ours, who has had a decent history of innovation and economic success overall. I think that toughness only happens as a result of necessity, but I also think that necessity will make itself known once again. It will be a time for seeing the wheat separate from the chaff.
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    Re: Wussification of America

    We elected a president whose political career was marked by bold "present" voting who resolves things over a beer from his WH microbrewery thanks to Oprah helping him get elected. Sometimes there is just no denying reality. We are Vajayjays

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    Re: Wussification of America

    a guy i sort of knew on another board-sadly deceased now-he came to America seeking better treatment for kidney issues than he could get in Australia and then became a citizen, stated as follows

    a nation that tells all its children that they are winners, no matter what, quickly becomes a country full of losers



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    Re: Wussification of America

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    a guy i sort of knew on another board-sadly deceased now-he came to America seeking better treatment for kidney issues than he could get in Australia and then became a citizen, stated as follows

    a nation that tells all its children that they are winners, no matter what, quickly becomes a country full of losers
    Excellent, and I would believe that. At the risk of having half the women, and some of the men here, come down on my head, I think that our high divorce rate, and so many children being raised by only their mother, has something to do with that. Mothers historically coddle and pamper the children, while fathers tell it like it is, and help the boys learn how to take life's knocks, then get back up again.
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    Re: Wussification of America

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    a guy i sort of knew on another board-sadly deceased now-he came to America seeking better treatment for kidney issues than he could get in Australia and then became a citizen, stated as follows

    a nation that tells all its children that they are winners, no matter what, quickly becomes a country full of losers
    And speaking of losers, Mike Rice's Rutgers record is 44-51.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Wussification of America

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Excellent, and I would believe that. At the risk of having half the women, and some of the men here, come down on my head, I think that our high divorce rate, and so many children being raised by only their mother, has something to do with that. Mothers historically coddle and pamper the children, while fathers tell it like it is, and help the boys learn how to take life's knocks, then get back up again.
    I think most children who grew in a single parent household would disagree with that. I believe the opposite - kids who grow up in a mother-only household tend to have to fend for themselves sooner than most.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
    - Colonel Paul Yingling

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    Re: Wussification of America

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    I agree with Bolling's point yesterday about Americans becoming wussies and political correctness being a major source.
    I am pretty sure being politically correct isn't about throwing basketballs at people's heads when it is not a part of the game.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    There's the sense of entitlement since we don't let kid's experience failure nowadays. That includes things from not letting kids fail at school when their results are insufficient to handing out participation trophies. Some schools are even banning sporting activities to prevent anyone from feeling like a loser.
    What schools are these again because i don't know too many schools that don't have sports, and the only time i know of them cutting sports is due to budgetary issues, and that is not about competition.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    We surrender to just about any complaint, rather that seeing if any of the responsibility falls on the complainant. For example, schools are removing a cross or picture of Jesus if one or two people complain, even if a hundred want it there. Someone needs to speak up and tell them to ignore it if they don't like it.
    Actually, the school decided it's funds would be better spent on students rather than a costly legal fight for a picture, but that if the people around wanted to pay the costs to fight the ACLU on the matter they could. I would have to agree with the school's decisions on a picture that doesn't help anyone learn anything, and not pissing lots of money away on having it there when education is their purpose. It is not a church, so get over it. Oh, and if you want to donate some money to the fight for the picture i am pretty sure the local religious organizations will take it. We give funding to schools for kids to learn, not to be wasted on a picture of jesus.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    You might say "the older generation always says the younger is worse." However, the upward trends for the numbers in divorce, kids born out of wedlock, government handouts, obesity, average age people live with parents until, etc. speak for themselves.
    You mean the older generation that endorsed segregation, fought for racism, fought for sexism, hated gays, imprisoned chinks in slavery camps. The generation that discriminated against WOPs, Micks, Spicks, Chinks, niggers, gooks, chicks, and towel heads? You mean those great people? The generation that beat their kids, and hid molestation? The generation that went on a witch hunt for commies, and brought us the cold war? I will deal with a couple of wussy emo brats over all of that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    What will it take to get society to acknowledge these mistakes and fix them? Feel free to add more.
    yes, can't we go back to the days when you could beat your wife and child, and then go down to the local bar and talk trash about any number of nationalities, races, and women? Can't we go back to seeing commies around every corner and segregation? Can we go back to persecuting gays for blowjobs, which straight guys seem to love despite it being sodomy? Can't we go back to the days when your white ass was powerful and no one questioned you without getting smacked upside the head.

    I think billy Joel may have said it the best. the good old days weren't always good and tomorrow aint as bad as it seems. Or perhaps it was the eagles when they said get over it. Either way, get yourself a time machine if you want to go backwards.

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    Re: Wussification of America

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Excellent, and I would believe that. At the risk of having half the women, and some of the men here, come down on my head, I think that our high divorce rate, and so many children being raised by only their mother, has something to do with that. Mothers historically coddle and pamper the children, while fathers tell it like it is, and help the boys learn how to take life's knocks, then get back up again.
    I think that has to do with society always trying to equate men and women, instead of focusing on the unique values of each. I even hear women complain about chivalry being gone. But I think that's partly due to fewer women acting like ladies. Every day you hear complaints for them to join boys football or military front line. Anyone who knows the basics of reverse-engineering can give the most likely reasons as to why men are physically stronger, women softer, men less emotional thinkers, etc. I credit a lot of my successful marriage to my wife and me being very traditional. From the day she moved in with me, we didn't even have to discuss responsibilities.
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