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Ben Carson: Liberals Don’t Like Me Because They’re ‘Racist’ (AUDIO)

ReformCollege said:
And I certainly hope the buck stops at SSM. My fear isn't of gays and lesbians being able to marry; its of the slippery slope that I worry could come after it.

I'll admit I am slightly skeptical about SSM, not because I am personally opposed to it, but as a college student I am constantly exposed to some of the most "culturally sensitive" (read: pretentious dip****s) the world has ever seen. I got told by a post-grad student professor last semester that I was being "cis-centric and transphobic" because I pointed out that sex is a dichotomy marked by the presence or absence of a Y chromosome. I cannot recall ever being so stupefied in my life.
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So how do XXY and XXY chromosomes fit in to that "dichotomy"?
 
Personally, it hurt me to see Ben Carson's views on homosexuality as I read his autobiography and the man is extremely intelligent, however, I disagree with him on his views about homosexuality.

VanceMack said:
Rev. Joseph Kyles, pastor of The Promise Church of Chicago, said the idea of gay marriage is a moral issue, not a civil rights issue. “There is no way you can tell me that people in Mississippi who were chased down by dogs, who were sprayed with fire hoses, who were hung from trees, have the same passion for two men to be married, or two women. You cannot tell me that." Rev Leon Miller said he loves sinners but hates sin; loves gays but totally opposes gay marriage. “That is abomination before God. Another thing to realize is that we think about, as reading the word of God, Sodom and Gomorrah. We don’t want a Sodom and Gomorrah. God is going to get sick of this.”

Did you hear all of this? Do you know when it was said?

Of course not. Dont be silly.
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It was said here for those who are interested. (State Senator: Ministers’ Vow Of Backlash For Gay Marriage Vote An ‘Empty Threat’ « CBS Chicago)

Now I disagree with the pastor on his views regarding homosexuality, however I do agree that you cannot compare the cases of the black civil rights movement and the fight for SSM. They are completely and utterly different as black people were fighting for the most basic of rights, we were fighting for the right to be recognized as human beings.


VanceMack said:
You are welcome. BTW...how many people died from gun violence in Chicago last month? Or for that matter in all of the black and latino communities across the country since Sandy Hook? What is the current unemployment rate in the black community?

Cuz...you know...you 'care'.
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I think that when it comes to party politics, neither party really cares about black people beyond being a voting block and really you could say that neither party cares about the country as look how the politicians have screwed us over while helping out their corporate donors and weakening the country as a whole.
 
sangha said:
So how do XXY and XXY chromosomes fit in to that "dichotomy"?
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I think you meant XXY and XYY. They are genetic mutations, but both are male. Hence "presence" of a Y chromosome.
 
sangha said:
Gays aren't changing the definition of marriage. The American people are.
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Gays are changing it

Why do only they get the right to change it

tererun said:
So the solution the rpublicans have come up with for their really bad ideas is to find uncle ruckus and pretend it is because people are racist that they disagree with his stupid comments and prejudice? Republicons are aware that just because it comes out of the mouth of a black person doesn't make it true in the liberal mind, and that the very idea it should is overwhelmingly racist, right?

To the republicons, it is OK to dislike stupid ideas no matter who they come from, or what color they are. It is OK to be prejudiced against stupid. It is OK to brush aside stupid ideas, we do not have to put every idea in place just because we don't want to seem racist. Stop trying to use the fear of racism and the idea of tolerance to promote really fail ideas. But at least you are trying to make the 5 idiots in the democrat party who think every black person needs to be taken seriously or else you are a racist food for thought not seen since herman cain's presidential run. No really, he is a doctor so he must be right, despite the reality that republicons hate the liberal educated elite today for some reason. You cannot even stick to your own rhetoric.
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You are a racist
 
sangha said:
Americans are changing it
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Prop 8 PASSED with majority support of both blacks and latinos

Americans aren't changing it. Gays are using the courts to change it.
 
tererun said:
So the solution the rpublicans have come up with for their really bad ideas is to find uncle ruckus and pretend it is because people are racist that they disagree with his stupid comments and prejudice? Republicons are aware that just because it comes out of the mouth of a black person doesn't make it true in the liberal mind, and that the very idea it should is overwhelmingly racist, right?

To the republicons, it is OK to dislike stupid ideas no matter who they come from, or what color they are. It is OK to be prejudiced against stupid. It is OK to brush aside stupid ideas, we do not have to put every idea in place just because we don't want to seem racist. Stop trying to use the fear of racism and the idea of tolerance to promote really fail ideas. But at least you are trying to make the 5 idiots in the democrat party who think every black person needs to be taken seriously or else you are a racist food for thought not seen since herman cain's presidential run. No really, he is a doctor so he must be right, despite the reality that republicons hate the liberal educated elite today for some reason. You cannot even stick to your own rhetoric.
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seems rather silly to blame Republicans for the racism some liberals espouse towards minority conservatives.
 
Thrilla said:
seems rather silly to blame Republicans for the racism some liberals espouse towards minority conservatives.
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It seems rather silly to use racism to try to make it impossible to complain about racism, but that doesn't stop the reps from trying to use this guy like that. Look, a black guy said something so you can't complain or else you are racist. Seriously, did you really think people were going to buy that one? To think all they needed to do to keep black slaves was to get a slave to say black people should be slaves and all of a sudden it isn't racist anymore, but it is racist to say the black slave was wrong. I would call that a logic train wreck, but it is more of a deliberate attempt to justify their racism by pretending it is the liberals who are the racists. It is sort of like the klan defending segregation by saying it makes life more enjoyable for black people because they don't have to be around a bunch of racist assholes.
 
tererun said:
It seems rather silly to use racism to try to make it impossible to complain about racism, but that doesn't stop the reps from trying to use this guy like that. Look, a black guy said something so you can't complain or else you are racist. Seriously, did you really think people were going to buy that one? To think all they needed to do to keep black slaves was to get a slave to say black people should be slaves and all of a sudden it isn't racist anymore, but it is racist to say the black slave was wrong. I would call that a logic train wreck, but it is more of a deliberate attempt to justify their racism by pretending it is the liberals who are the racists. It is sort of like the klan defending segregation by saying it makes life more enjoyable for black people because they don't have to be around a bunch of racist assholes.
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You compared an accomplished black brain surgeon to this guy

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You're only proving Dr. Carson right with your blatant racism
 
tererun said:
It seems rather silly to use racism to try to make it impossible to complain about racism, but that doesn't stop the reps from trying to use this guy like that. Look, a black guy said something so you can't complain or else you are racist. Seriously, did you really think people were going to buy that one? To think all they needed to do to keep black slaves was to get a slave to say black people should be slaves and all of a sudden it isn't racist anymore, but it is racist to say the black slave was wrong. I would call that a logic train wreck, but it is more of a deliberate attempt to justify their racism by pretending it is the liberals who are the racists. It is sort of like the klan defending segregation by saying it makes life more enjoyable for black people because they don't have to be around a bunch of racist assholes.
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people are free to criticize what he said... I did... it's not racist to criticize what he said.

did that adequately address your strawman?

I think I will dismiss your notion that he's being used by anyone... I think Ben Carson is highly intelligent and free to determine his own political affiliation without the aid of racist liberals think themselves so superior to him that they know what is best for him.... y'all don't have standing to declare what is best for him, only he does.... no amount of impugning his character because of his skin color is going to change that.
 
Thrilla said:
people are free to criticize what he said... I did... it's not racist to criticize what he said.

did that adequately address your strawman?
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yeah, it is called prejudice, and that is exactly what he was. Yes, black people can easily be prejudiced and racist, even against their own people.
Thrilla said:
I think I will dismiss your notion that he's being used by anyone...
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Yes, because it is inconvenient to have an argument you cannot address because you know it is true.

Thrilla said:
I think Ben Carson is highly intelligent and free to determine his own political affiliation without the aid of racist liberals think themselves so superior to him that they know what is best for him.... y'all don't have standing to declare what is best for him, only he does.... no amount of impugning his character because of his skin color is going to change that.
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gee, now if only you could do the same for obama that would be great.
 
tererun said:
better educated i would guess, but still pretty much the same.
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Better educated "you guess" and you compare him to a cartoon character?

You're on a racist roll tonight aren't you

Seriously. Shame on you.
 
tererun said:
yeah, it is called prejudice, and that is exactly what he was. Yes, black people can easily be prejudiced and racist, even against their own people.
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I don't know what it is... i just know he said something offensive and i have criticized it ... i'd be wary of labeling him anything based on one statement.


Yes, because it is inconvenient to have an argument you cannot address because you know it is true.
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no, i don't know it to be true....unlike you, I actually allow people of any color to hold any political lean or affiliation they want... it's their business, not mine.


gee, now if only you could do the same for obama that would be great
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done and done.. I don't impugn Obama's character over anything having to do with his skin color...
I can't stand Obama's politics or his political affiliation.... his skin color, however, is irrelevant.
you liberal racists should learn from me... but that would mean having to drop the racism and focus on character and content, and we both know that ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
 
Bronson said:
Better educated "you guess" and you compare him to a cartoon character?

You're on a racist roll tonight aren't you

Seriously. Shame on you.
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Nope, still not working, but it is good to see you keep up your manipulation even in the face of overwhelming failure. If you cannot win, just enjoy losing.
 
Thrilla said:
I don't know what it is... i just know he said something offensive and i have criticized it ... i'd be wary of labeling him anything based on one statement.
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Hey, I don't have to make excuses for him so i am all good.

Thrilla said:
no, i don't know it to be true....unlike you, I actually allow people of any color to hold any political lean or affiliation they want... it's their business, not mine.
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They can take whatever position they are paid to, but that doesn't make them right.

Thrilla said:
done and done.. I don't impugn Obama's character over anything having to do with his skin color...
I can't stand Obama's politics or his political affiliation.... his skin color, however, is irrelevant.
you liberal racists should learn from me... but that would mean having to drop the racism and focus on character and content, and we both know that ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
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keep on going with the fail, don't ever let it stop you. If your bad ideas don't work you can always say them louder. Why ever change? That is unless you want to actually fix the message, but you don't let things like that stop you. It is unfortunate for you that your party seems to have a few members who actually want to win an election and will sacrifice your hate for their jobs.
 
tererun said:
Nope, still not working, but it is good to see you keep up your manipulation even in the face of overwhelming failure. If you cannot win, just enjoy losing.
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Take your white hood off

Shame on you
 
tererun said:
Hey, I don't have to make excuses for him so i am all good.
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you are far from good...bigots are rarely good.


They can take whatever position they are paid to, but that doesn't make them right.
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how much are you paid to hold you political beliefs?... why do you assume people are paid to hold their political beliefs?

keep on going with the fail, don't ever let it stop you. If your bad ideas don't work you can always say them louder. Why ever change? That is unless you want to actually fix the message, but you don't let things like that stop you. It is unfortunate for you that your party seems to have a few members who actually want to win an election and will sacrifice your hate for their jobs.
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umm, my message is ... "don't be a racist"... that you see that as a fail is rather telling.

what party do i belong to again?.. that's right .. the Libertarian party... where the real liberals are.
my hate?...what hate are you talking about?
 
Thrilla said:
you are far from good...bigots are rarely good.
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maybe i should have chosen rarity as my avatar then.

Thrilla said:
how much are you paid to hold you political beliefs?... why do you assume people are paid to hold their political beliefs?
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He is because he has entered the realm of politics. So yes he is paid for his political position. Think these claims through to the end. You will avoid mistakes like that.

Thrilla said:
umm, my message is ... "don't be a racist"... that you see that as a fail is rather telling.
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yes, ignore the paid for spokesman and his stupid ideas because it would be racist to object to what a black man says.
Thrilla said:
what party do i belong to again?.. that's right .. the Libertarian party... where the real liberals are.
my hate?...what hate are you talking about?
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yeah, just because you claim to be a libertarian doesn't mean you are one. I think you would be a LINO. This is not the first time the right has jumped ship on their party and taken over another to avoid the stench of their own BS. You do realize you would have been a democrat way back in the 1950s. You can keep changing the name, but the message remains the same.
 
mak2 said:
Just like Palin? Skeerd, I hope you guys dont start saying that again, it is only funny the first couple times.
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Big difference, this guy really is 10x smarter than Obama, he's conservative and he's BLACK. ;) It's not funny.
 
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