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    Re: Ben Carson: Liberals Don’t Like Me Because They’re ‘Racist’ (AUDIO)

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    We have 4 years of actions to judge Obama by. If anything he's too cozy with big business not some crazy radical.
    So, you didn't give him a free pass in 2007, like you're doing now?
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    Re: Ben Carson: Liberals Don’t Like Me Because They’re ‘Racist’ (AUDIO)

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yeah nobody believes that. Comparing homosexuality to beastiality and pedophilia is a common meme for the religious right.
    Well now hold on...they ARE comparable in that they are all defined as 'sins' specifically listed in the Bible. While you may hate THAT reality, you probably lose your MIND over the reality that the current guy occupying the White House ALSO believes in that same Bible and has stated he too based on his belief system believes homosexuality to be a sin. I dont think he has 'compared' them but the comparison strictly in the sense that they are sexual practices defined as a 'sin' is undeniable. YOU of course are under NO obligation to believe that the Bible is divinely inspired and that those 'sins' even matter. Just sayin...the president does.

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    Re: Ben Carson: Liberals Don’t Like Me Because They’re ‘Racist’ (AUDIO)

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Actually you really have to lack historical knowledge to make that claim. Blacks overwhelming voted Republican following the Civil War but started voting for Democratic presidents by a large margin with the election of FDR. There was definately a bump...from 70ish percent to 90ish percent following Civil Rights but the only large shift following Civil Rights was the loss of the deep south white vote. Which still votes consistently Republican.

    Edit: Truman actually recieved above 80% of the black vote...of course well before the Civil Rights Act was passed in 64.
    You might want to actually look at LBJs on words on why he passed the civil rights bill, or why he nominated a black supreme court justice.

    So you are saying blacks started voting Democrat after they started offering free things? Thats pretty racist of you.

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    Re: Ben Carson: Liberals Don’t Like Me Because They’re ‘Racist’ (AUDIO)

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So he should have vetoed it?

    Whatever his motivations, he signed it, and it's a good thing.
    SURE...its a GREAT thing. But it doesnt negate the facts and what i have said all along in this thread. LBJ signed it to get black votes (the same reason he nominated black judges). And its great that it passed...but it doesnt make the faux expression of concern or care over the needs and problems of the black community any less real. But then...passage of appeasement acts never did much good.

    Weeeeee! We named a street after MLK! We 'care'! (side note...travel advisory...do NOT go down streets named after MLK in major cities in America)

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    Re: Ben Carson: Liberals Don’t Like Me Because They’re ‘Racist’ (AUDIO)

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you didn't give him a free pass in 2007, like you're doing now?
    A free pass for what? I like what the President said in 2007. In fact I'm upset that his actions don't mirror what he's said.

    We are talking about a guy here that said something and then said "I didn't really mean that". I said I don't find that believable because he is a self proclaimed member of the christian right and he basically said what is repetated by the Christian right.

    As for this weird path you're trying to go down. Obama also has mentioned a creator. So did the founders...does that make him a founder? So does the Christian right...does that make him a member of the Christian right? I have no idea what we're arguing now.
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    Re: Ben Carson: Liberals Don’t Like Me Because They’re ‘Racist’ (AUDIO)

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Well now hold on...they ARE comparable in that they are all defined as 'sins' specifically listed in the Bible. While you may hate THAT reality, .

    You mean the reality that the right's very premise is a book of fairy tales?

    Leave your fairy tales at home where they belong. Keep them the hell out of my bedroom and my life.

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    Re: Ben Carson: Liberals Don’t Like Me Because They’re ‘Racist’ (AUDIO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    You mean the reality that the right's very premise is a book of fairy tales?

    Leave your fairy tales at home where they belong. Keep them the hell out of my bedroom and my life.
    Take it up with Obama. I personally dont care about the Bibles stand on homosexuality where 'right' and 'wrong' are concerned.

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    Re: Ben Carson: Liberals Don’t Like Me Because They’re ‘Racist’ (AUDIO)

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You might want to actually look at LBJs on words on why he passed the civil rights bill, or why he nominated a black supreme court justice.
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    Actually why don't you provide the quote and the link. The only quote I know of concerning the ramifications of the Civil Rights Act that LBJ talked about was that it would split the party and parties hold on the deep south.

    So you are saying blacks started voting Democrat after they started offering free things? Thats pretty racist of you.
    I didn't say that...you just said that. I stated a fact...that in the election of 1932 the black vote swung heavily to the Democrats and has stayed there since. That blacks overwhelming identified as Democrats before the passage of the Civil Rights act.

    The fact that is your first thought that says a lot though! My first thought was that they shifted to Democrats with the rest of the American electorate after the failure of Hoover and Laissez Faire economics. They were part of the New Deal coalition that dominated politics for 40 years.
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    Re: Ben Carson: Liberals Don’t Like Me Because They’re ‘Racist’ (AUDIO)

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Actually why don't you provide the quote and the link. The only quote I know of concerning the ramifications of the Civil Rights Act that LBJ talked about was that it would split the party and parties hold on the deep south.



    I didn't say that...you just said that. I stated a fact...that in the election of 1932 the black vote swung heavily to the Democrats and has stayed there since. That blacks overwhelming identified as Democrats before the passage of the Civil Rights act.

    The fact that is your first thought that says a lot though! My first thought was that they shifted to Democrats with the rest of the American electorate after the failure of Hoover and Laissez Faire economics. They were part of the New Deal coalition that dominated politics for 40 years.
    Kinda goes hand in hand with the same concepts that have done so much damage to the black community and kept them dependent on the government...right?

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    Re: Ben Carson: Liberals Don’t Like Me Because They’re ‘Racist’ (AUDIO)

    The rightwingers miss the days when all blacks were independent

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