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    Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    “Obamacare” looks increasingly inevitable, but one lawsuit making its way through the court system could pull the plug on the sweeping federal health care law.

    A challenge filed by the Pacific Legal Foundation contends that the Affordable Care Act is unconstitutional because the bill originated in the Senate, not the House. Under the Origination Clause of the Constitution, all bills raising revenue must begin in the House



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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    it probably won't be tossed. it should be replaced with universal health care, though. hopefully that's the way we'll go once the PPACA doesn't work.

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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    “Obamacare” looks increasingly inevitable, but one lawsuit making its way through the court system could pull the plug on the sweeping federal health care law.

    A challenge filed by the Pacific Legal Foundation contends that the Affordable Care Act is unconstitutional because the bill originated in the Senate, not the House. Under the Origination Clause of the Constitution, all bills raising revenue must begin in the House



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    Did the House version of the ACA have the tax on wheelchairs and walkers?

    And if you read the Time Magazine article on the cost of health care and profit margin on wheelchairs and the like, you'll understand why the tax is a good idea.

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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by mr4anarchy View Post
    Did the House version of the ACA have the tax on wheelchairs and walkers?

    And if you read the Time Magazine article on the cost of health care and profit margin on wheelchairs and the like, you'll understand why the tax is a good idea.
    So far it has been nothing but bad with many people figuring out their healthcare will see increases like never before

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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    it probably won't be tossed. it should be replaced with universal health care, though. hopefully that's the way we'll go once the PPACA doesn't work.
    I agree with this, reluctantly, though I believe it will take at least 10 years to get done, as the gears of our political process grind slowly. All Obamacare will do, IMO, is delay the inevitable.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I agree with this, reluctantly, though I believe it will take at least 10 years to get done, as the gears of our political process grind slowly. All Obamacare will do, IMO, is delay the inevitable.
    honestly, I'd be surprised if we have anything even resembling UHC in ten years. we couldn't even get a public option put into the Heritage Foundation bill. eventually, though, the middle class is going to tire of bankruptcy over health expenses and a de facto one hundred percent death tax in the form of end of life care for those not "fortunate" enough to die quickly.

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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    honestly, I'd be surprised if we have anything even resembling UHC in ten years. we couldn't even get a public option put into the Heritage Foundation bill. eventually, though, the middle class is going to tire of bankruptcy over health expenses and a de facto one hundred percent death tax in the form of end of life care for those not "fortunate" enough to die quickly.
    I fear you are correct.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    it probably won't be tossed. it should be replaced with universal health care, though. hopefully that's the way we'll go once the PPACA doesn't work.
    I think we should have single payer health care, and I find it shameful that the president of this country would willingly and knowingly put us in economic turmoil as the path to get there. The Democrats don't want single payer, they like to cater to big business just as much as the Republicans.

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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    I think we should have single payer health care, and I find it shameful that the president of this country would willingly and knowingly put us in economic turmoil as the path to get there. The Democrats don't want single payer, they like to cater to big business just as much as the Republicans.
    it was a major disappointment. the mistake was made at the outset : the goalpost should have at least been set at medicare for all. if it had been, a public option would have been the final compromise fallback position. instead, the bill was lobbied into near uselessness.

    there is a silver lining, though. now that it's in place, it's a stepping stone, and hopefully the path leads to something that will work. however, it's unfortunate that we'll probably have to waste tons of money and another twenty years before we slowly evolve into a sane health care system when we could have just done it all at once.

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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    “Obamacare” looks increasingly inevitable, but one lawsuit making its way through the court system could pull the plug on the sweeping federal health care law.

    A challenge filed by the Pacific Legal Foundation contends that the Affordable Care Act is unconstitutional because the bill originated in the Senate, not the House. Under the Origination Clause of the Constitution, all bills raising revenue must begin in the House



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    What is your problem with the Affordable HeatlhCare Act, and please provide links to back up your facts.
    Alex Carey:

    ... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

    Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

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