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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    No stumbling block? Did you forget the Dick Armey bussed in tea baggers and the republicans not attending meetings and walking out? Sure you did.

    PolitiFact | Obama statements on single-payer have changed a bit



    We need the house and the senate and a majority of the senate with no fillibuster from the republicans.
    Here's a list of Senate bribes to help them get this POS through. It's Christian Coalition, but facts are facts and this is all well known.

    The payoffs in the Senate Obamacare bill | Christian Coalition of America

    So your own Senate didn't want this ****.
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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Here's a list of Senate bribes to help them get this POS through. It's Christian Coalition, but facts are facts and this is all well known.

    The payoffs in the Senate Obamacare bill | Christian Coalition of America

    So your own Senate didn't want this ****.
    YOU may believe the Christian Coalition, but these crooks have been ripping off Americans and lying to them, like under FalWell when they declared the democrats were going to steal bibles and Ralph Reed is now employed to use Chinese females slave workers in the Marinas islands as prostitutes and then force them into abortions.

    Bill Moyers: Ralph Reed in the Marianas Trenches

    As head of the Faith and Freedom Coalition, Reed boasts he's building a political dynamo of five million members with a massive database, an annual budget of $100 million and full-time lobbyists in all fifty state capitals, a colossal effort aimed at putting in place a right-wing social agenda and identifying and establishing contact with what it estimates as 27 million conservative voters in America. As you can imagine, with clout like that, Reed and his coalition were in high cotton at the Tampa convention.

    Which brings us to that curious Mariana Islands minimum wage plank in the Republican platform. Some years ago, our government made an effort to clean up sweatshops on the islands -- including Saipan -- that have been under the control of the United States since the end of World War II.

    Chinese women were brought over to the islands to work under awful conditions -- subject to forced abortions and prostitution and paid pennies for producing garments labeled "Made in the USA."

    Corrupt local officials hired the firm of infamous lobbyist Jack Abramoff -- for more than four million dollars -- to try to stop the reforms proposed back in Washington. Abramoff, in turn, hired Ralph Reed and his political direct mail company, Millennium Marketing, to conduct a phony grass roots campaign urging Alabama Christians to write their local congressman to oppose the reforms.

    Of course, Reed didn't tell those Christians he was being paid to help keep running sweatshops that exploited women. Instead, he told them the reforms were a trick orchestrated by the left and organized labor. Limits on Chinese workers would keep them from being "exposed to the teachings of Jesus Christ." His company explained it was just trying to encourage "grass roots citizens to promote the propagation of the Gospel" and that many of the workers were "converted to the Christian faith and return to China with Bibles in hand."
    The Christian right wing are not Christians and they are just as big of corporate thugs as the oil companies are.
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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    why did you quote me in your post?

    i've already explained that it did originate in the house... all shell bell originate in the House

    it started out as something other than obamacare, the senate changed it to obamacare... and then ran it though the house as reconciliation.
    You mean I can't quote someone as affirmation that they were right? Pity....

    Seriously, I quoted you for emphasis, nothing more.

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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    You mean I can't quote someone as affirmation that they were right? Pity....

    Seriously, I quoted you for emphasis, nothing more.

    ahh... ok... i thought you were somehow in disagreement.... my bad.

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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    ahh... ok... i thought you were somehow in disagreement.... my bad.
    Nope. Just expanded on your dose of truth serum.

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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    YOU may believe the Christian Coalition, but these crooks have been ripping off Americans and lying to them, like under FalWell when they declared the democrats were going to steal bibles and Ralph Reed is now employed to use Chinese females slave workers in the Marinas islands as prostitutes and then force them into abortions.

    Bill Moyers: Ralph Reed in the Marianas Trenches

    The Christian right wing are not Christians and they are just as big of corporate thugs as the oil companies are.
    You obvious can't disprove the list, cause you know it to be true.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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