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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That's always the case with estimates over a decade period.

    "However, CBO and JCT, in consultation with outside experts, have devoted a great deal of care and effort to the analysis of health care legislation in the past few years, and the agencies have strived to develop estimates that are in the middle of the distribution of possible outcomes."
    If the pilot of your airplane said "I am quite uncertain we will get you there" or it is "highly uncertain if we reach your destination" I am willing to bet you would want off the plane.

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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    If the pilot of your airplane said "I am quite uncertain we will get you there" or it is "highly uncertain if we reach your destination" I am willing to bet you would want off the plane.
    All ten year estimates have the same uncertainties. I guess you missed the first part of the discussion to understand why that is significant.
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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

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    Thanks for sharing your hunch!
    You're welcome to prove otherwise.
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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    All ten year estimates have the same uncertainties. I guess you missed the first part of the discussion to understand why that is significant.
    I worked on Capitol Hill for a bit. I guess you have greater faith in our government to stick to a budget or come in with much of anything in a favorable financial way than I did even when I was one of the evil insiders.

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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I worked on Capitol Hill for a bit. I guess you have greater faith in our government to stick to a budget or come in with much of anything in a favorable financial way than I did even when I was one of the evil insiders.

    I guess you were surprised then when President Obama reduced the deficit.
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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    You're welcome to prove otherwise.
    Health care reform law's tax hikes are coming: Who pays?

    "Who gets thumped by higher taxes in President Barack Obama's health care law? The wealthiest 2 percent of Americans will take the biggest hit, starting next year. And the pain will be shared by some who aren't so well off — people swept up in a hodgepodge of smaller tax changes that will help finance health coverage for millions in need.

    For the vast majority of people, however, the health care law won't mean sending more money to the Internal Revenue Service.

    And roughly 20 million people eventually will benefit from tax credits that start in 2014 to help them pay insurance premiums."


    Health care reform law's tax hikes are coming: Who pays? - Leader-Telegram: Daily Updates
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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Health care reform law's tax hikes are coming: Who pays?

    "Who gets thumped by higher taxes in President Barack Obama's health care law? The wealthiest 2 percent of Americans will take the biggest hit, starting next year. And the pain will be shared by some who aren't so well off — people swept up in a hodgepodge of smaller tax changes that will help finance health coverage for millions in need.
    For the vast majority of people, however, the health care law won't mean sending more money to the Internal Revenue Service.

    And roughly 20 million people eventually will benefit from tax credits that start in 2014 to help them pay insurance premiums."


    Health care reform law's tax hikes are coming: Who pays? - Leader-Telegram: Daily Updates
    That is far from refuting what I said.
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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    That is far from refuting what I said.
    What part of this didn't you understand?

    "The wealthiest 2 percent of Americans will take the biggest hit."

    "For the vast majority of people, however, the health care law won't mean sending more money to the Internal Revenue Service."
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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What part of this didn't you understand?

    "The wealthiest 2 percent of Americans will take the biggest hit."

    "For the vast majority of people, however, the health care law won't mean sending more money to the Internal Revenue Service."
    I present numbers from the CBO, you present The Christian Science Monitor and The Leader Telegram.

    No problem. And from your own quotation:

    And the pain will be shared by some who aren't so well off — people swept up in a hodgepodge of smaller tax changes that will help finance health coverage for millions in need.
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    Re: Lawsuit over health care tax could kill ‘Obamacare’

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    I present numbers from the CBO, you present The Christian Science Monitor and The Leader Telegram.

    No problem. And from your own quotation:

    And the pain will be shared by some who aren't so well off — people swept up in a hodgepodge of smaller tax changes that will help finance health coverage for millions in need.
    Your CBO source did not state what you claim. And your quotation above was followed with, "For the vast majority of people, however, the health care law won't mean sending more money to the Internal Revenue Service."

    My taxes have not gone up to pay for health care reform, have yours?
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