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    Re: GOP Lawmaker Calls Hispanic Workers ‘Wetbacks’

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Who has Rush ever "bullied"? I'm not a fan of Rush at all, but you people make him out to be more than he is. He is not a political party leader, and he has no influence on elected officials.
    Rush has had a great deal of clout with the party because he can deliver voters and he can deliver the message. However, leadership role, never.

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    Re: GOP Lawmaker Calls Hispanic Workers ‘Wetbacks’

    Yes, exactly, dittoheads are like disciples. I know a lot more than a dozen personally.
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    Rush has had a great deal of clout with the party because he can deliver voters and he can deliver the message. However, leadership role, never.
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    Re: GOP Lawmaker Calls Hispanic Workers ‘Wetbacks’

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yeah, I saw that transition happening. It's because we screwed up the migrant programs by allowing them to bring families with them and supporting those families with social services while they were here. Then we allowed them to stay - breaking the whole concept of "migrant" worker.

    Return to the concept of the true guest worker - here to do the work and then go home.
    Actually they weren't allowed to stay but were not allowed to continue to cross the border for temp work for a season and then go home with the ability to come back again next season. Tightening the borders had the unintended consequences of bringing MORE across as the families joined the workers and set up permanent residence on this side of the Rio.

    What the result turned out to be is making the border a one way crossing, no more easy transit back and forth to do the grunt work few 'real' citizens were willing to do.

    The guest worker programs were highly restricted BEFORE families started coming over to live 365 days a year, but I agree there needs to be a realistic guest worker program if there is any hope of keeping stoop labor farm goods flowing and limiting the number coming here to live permanently.

    Course from my POV, that doesn't mean the immigration policy should be kept so low. Time for some more salsa in the melting pot!

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    Re: GOP Lawmaker Calls Hispanic Workers ‘Wetbacks’

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Rush has had a great deal of clout with the party because he can deliver voters and he can deliver the message. However, leadership role, never.

    He doesn't hold elected office or official status in any political organization, but that clout still makes him a political leader

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    Re: GOP Lawmaker Calls Hispanic Workers ‘Wetbacks’

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Yes, exactly, dittoheads are like disciples. I know a lot more than a dozen personally.
    Agreed, it's the fan base. But that doesn't make him a leader of the party.

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    Re: GOP Lawmaker Calls Hispanic Workers ‘Wetbacks’

    You dont have to be a formal leader to be a leader. Often the most effective leaders are not.
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    Agreed, it's the fan base. But that doesn't make him a leader of the party.
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    Re: GOP Lawmaker Calls Hispanic Workers ‘Wetbacks’

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    He doesn't hold elected office or official status in any political organization, but that clout still makes him a political leader
    Disagree with that last. The actual leadership of the party has many times gone a different way than Rush cheerlead for on his show. He's not a political leader, just as Bill Mahr isn't, just as Steven Colbert isn't.

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    Re: GOP Lawmaker Calls Hispanic Workers ‘Wetbacks’

    Rush controls millions of votes, 5 or 6 people listen to Mahr or Colbert.
    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Disagree with that last. The actual leadership of the party has many times gone a different way than Rush cheerlead for on his show. He's not a political leader, just as Bill Mahr isn't, just as Steven Colbert isn't.
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    Re: GOP Lawmaker Calls Hispanic Workers ‘Wetbacks’

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Actually they weren't allowed to stay but were not allowed to continue to cross the border for temp work for a season and then go home with the ability to come back again next season. Tightening the borders had the unintended consequences of bringing MORE across as the families joined the workers and set up permanent residence on this side of the Rio.

    What the result turned out to be is making the border a one way crossing, no more easy transit back and forth to do the grunt work few 'real' citizens were willing to do.

    The guest worker programs were highly restricted BEFORE families started coming over to live 365 days a year, but I agree there needs to be a realistic guest worker program if there is any hope of keeping stoop labor farm goods flowing and limiting the number coming here to live permanently.

    Course from my POV, that doesn't mean the immigration policy should be kept so low. Time for some more salsa in the melting pot!
    Nope, you're talking about a more recent time period than we were discussing (late 50s through 70s).

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    GOP Lawmaker Calls Hispanic Workers ‘Wetbacks’

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Rush controls millions of votes, 5 or 6 people listen to Mahr or Colbert.
    Proof?

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