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    NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’s Ho

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    They were founded to promote civilian marksmanship- 'for the masses' seems quite the commie term- they have of late devoted far more resources to inside the beltway politics.... that is a shame.

    Why do the right wingers always fall back to 'legislate' as the only other solution?

    The school I worked for was under no mandate to back round check it's students. It just seems, and here is a word the Right loves to throw around, it just seems the RESPONSIBLE thing to do. It isn't fire safety, or a cooking class, it is a group of people bringing firearms onto a range to attend a SHOOTING course. downplay it all you want, it still is teaching unchecked people how to shoot, even if at an extremely low skill level.

    But again the issue i see isn't some cattle call class teaching Lanza to basics, it doesn't take much of an instructor to do that, it is the NRA not keeping good records or worse, turning a blind eye to their records on who they have had contact with. Sounds more like lawyer CYOA document shredding so the the talking heads can attempt to deny.
    1) It isn't communist. Lol. It is actually a freedom organization...to help reinforce the best application of the 2nd amendment.

    2) Sure. I can agree...but it is also a shame that they have had to fight a militantly anti gun lobby too isn't it? Regulation upon regulations aimed at everything from pistols, shotguns, and rifles. You can't deny that their has been a systematic attack on every type of firearm owned by the public except maybe the double and single barrel shotguns.

    I'm not a fan of all their actions or statements, "but one must create ambition to counter act ambition."

    3) Because legislation is about the only "solution" the left seems to think works and obviously we are against MORE broken legislation.

    4) It is assumed that if you own the firearm already...you are legal? So it is wrong to assume that people are innocent until proven guilty? You don't see ramifications for forcing background checks on people exercising a constitutional right? I understand "responsibility" just fine, but I am leery of any group that wants to track my ownership of firearms or training with them. That would be irresponsible of a pro gun lobbyist group. Wouldn't you say?

    5) Why should they keep track of who they are dealing with? They aren't teaching bomb making. They are teaching nothing that you couldn't pick up in a library or magazine section of a book store. You still have to buy a gun to practice what they do...and you have to do it legally. No "background check" policy would change anything.

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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Well, you have the right to your opinion, but if you aren't disturbed by the mass murderer of two dozen children honing his skills with NRA material, I can't imagine what would disturb you. Personally I find this for profit organization sickening.
    Did you actually believe that anyone would come in here and agree with this unsubstantiated tripe you posted? Anyone can download an Army field manual and learn something about shooting. Will you blame the Army then? You think the NRA is the only org that publishes info on shooting?
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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Did I say the NRA should be invading the privacy of their prospective members? no, I did not. What I did say is that they should have been at the front of the issue regarding letting the clearly mentally unstable people like Adam anywhere near a gun. It is a safety issue. you don't point your gun at people unless you are planning on shooting them, and you don't let the crazy kid play with one. The NRA should be the leader in expressing basic safety. I don't really care if they want to take money from the crazies to further their cause, nor do I expect them to refuse it, or investigate their members. Your membership card to the NRA is not going to kill anyone, so I don't care if the looniest person has one.
    They are the leader in gun safety, and the rest of what you wrote is a contradiction.
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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Typical lawyer deflection. In Oklahoma CCW permit training records are required, not voluntary. A whole different can of worms is CCW, we are talking about cattle call photo- op 'classes' not keeping records of who they teach. Not having any sort of backround check, any felon can show up with a handgun and receive training. Seems the NRA has more concern about lobbyists than simple backround checks in more places than gunshows...

    The issue isn't just the turd who did the shooting, but the turds who tried to deny thrice before the cock crowed. Well in this case until the evidence was made public.
    you just want to whine about the NRA. why should they keep a record other than to keep the nazi minded control freaks happy. Lets keep a record of everyone who watches a youtube video or plays a video game.

    Your rants are moronic.



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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Guilt by association is as retarded when trying to pin it on the NRA as it is on the kid's Call of Duty fascination.

    No causal relationship, HoJ and the other anti-2A's are just jumping on another opportunity to push their gun grabbing agenda since dancing on the graves of children no longer works. Don't worry "countrymen," statistically speaking we're due for another tragedy you can never let go to waste.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    1) It isn't communist. Lol. It is actually a freedom organization...to help reinforce the best application of the 2nd amendment.
    2) Sure. I can agree...but it is also a shame that they have had to fight a militantly anti gun lobby too isn't it? Regulation upon regulations aimed at everything from pistols, shotguns, and rifles. You can't deny that their has been a systematic attack on every type of firearm owned by the public except maybe the double and single barrel shotguns.
    I'm not a fan of all their actions or statements, "but one must create ambition to counter act ambition."
    3) Because legislation is about the only "solution" the left seems to think works and obviously we are against MORE broken legislation.
    4) It is assumed that if you own the firearm already...you are legal? So it is wrong to assume that people are innocent until proven guilty? You don't see ramifications for forcing background checks on people exercising a constitutional right? I understand "responsibility" just fine, but I am leery of any group that wants to track my ownership of firearms or training with them. That would be irresponsible of a pro gun lobbyist group. Wouldn't you say?
    5) Why should they keep track of who they are dealing with? They aren't teaching bomb making. They are teaching nothing that you couldn't pick up in a library or magazine section of a book store. You still have to buy a gun to practice what they do...and you have to do it legally. No "background check" policy would change anything.
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    I had to use numbers to keep order. I'm on my cell. I'm not doing the jerkish for 1 and 2 type thing.
    Oh the NRA doesn't use 'for the masses' they promote civilian marksmanship. For the masses is commie.

    The NRA 'fights' the anti 'gun' crowd even when the anti 'gun' crowd isn't hitting a lick. Back in the first term when there was no serious push on new restrictions the NRA kept a steady give us money drumbeat up because Obama MIGHT do something...

    Ahhh the old 'they always' defense to create a bogus point to argue against... 'they' ALWAYS want new laws... Rather than being reasonable....got it!

    Many years ago a rather angry man got nose to nose with me and said... ASSuming makes an ass out of you and me...you trying to make me an ass trainee??!! An odd assumption to make after so many folks declare laws only keep 'guns' out of the hands of law abiding citizens, the bad guys will ignore the laws...

    You can be paranoid, but if you are that paranoid get private no certificate training, This is about cattle call 'classes' that issue certificates. I understand some thinking the basics of 'gun' handling can be book learned- if so then stay with that and avoid any paper trail, but when NRA Certified Instructors sign fancy pieces of paper in the name of the NRA a record would be prudent. When teaching 'the masses' how to use firearms the prudent do due diligence.

    The dogma slaves just ASS-u-me and move on...

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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you just want to whine about the NRA. why should they keep a record other than to keep the nazi minded control freaks happy. Lets keep a record of everyone who watches a youtube video or plays a video game. Your rants are moronic.
    You just want to deflect. The NRA has to keep CCW records, there is no comparison.

    I'd say the moronic rant is to try and compare playing video games with teaching people how to use firearms...

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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    tererun, I'm no longer a NRA member myself. They simply do not have the same viewpoint on enough issues for me to financially support them. That's not an uncommon mentality in the gun owning community. I don't know the Lanza's but to suggest they were NRA members without any supporting evidence is seriously jumping the gun. The "Survivalist" types are the ones most likely to be non-NRA gun owners as they consider ANY legislation too much.

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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'm sorry I call bull**** on that one.
    Gee, from my experience, you could pretty much save that opening line for any thread originating from this poster.

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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    NRA Certificate and The sickness that is the NRA continues to be exposed.
    $64 question: How many people in that shooting were killed by a pistol?

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