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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by MACS-24 View Post
    Which is why none of this knee-jerk push for current new laws is right.
    If by right you mean right wing you are KEYrect Sir.

    If you mean correct then we have to disagree.

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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Tererun, one does not need to be an NRA member to attend most NRA classes. The Basic Pistol classes I taught were open to anyone over 18 years old. It's an 8 hour class with generally less than half the class being range work. It's a basic safety and operation class, nothing more.
    Look, Adams mother clearly felt guns were important. Everything I have heard about her says she would have supported the NRA and it's causes. Adam would have been pitched NRA membership at the course and even at home. Do you really think they weren't members of the NRA? It is extremely likely that they were members and did support the NRA as both of them would have enjoyed the use of guns. I am not trying to claim that the membership was bad, just that they would have been extremely likely to have been members of the NRA. There is a tiny possibility that for some reason they did not give support to the US's biggest pro-gun organization, but it would have fit her views perfectly. About the best I could see with Adam was he was too autistic to be social enough to have joined the group, but even that stretches thin when you realize he was alre4ady pulled out of his shell enough to participate in some aspect.

    I will say it again for the cheap seats. I don't think his membership in the NRA is a problem, nor am I bothered at all the NRA allowed him to be a member. hell, i would even agree that the media's inclusion of that fact is redundant and meant to demonize the NRA for a inconsequential reason. There were probably far more interesting things found there that would have been better to mention than something we already knew he did. We know he went shooting at legitimate ranges. We know he received training in using his weapon. I am pretty sure anyone with a brain could figure out the NRA was somehow associated with that activity given their participation in the gun community and the support they have from the gun community. I don't even really blame the NRA for trying to deny something we all pretty much know was the case. Still there is no reasonable reason for them to have ever denied adam or his mother membership. I don't even think it is terribly reasonable to think that the two of them would not have sought membership in the NRA given their affinity for guns.

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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Still there is no reasonable reason for them to have ever denied adam or his mother membership. I don't even think it is terribly reasonable to think that the two of them would not have sought membership in the NRA given their affinity for guns.
    So you basically claim that the NRA is responsible and you are making assumptions that somehow membership and a pamphlet are the fault for the shooting.

    I'll say again, the person at fault for the shooting was the shooter. You MAY be able to make a claim against the mother as well, I don't know I'm not a lawyer. But connecting this to the NRA is still a silly argument no matter how you look at it.

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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The only way for the NRA to have known would be to invade the people's privacy. Is that REALLY the power you want for the NRA? I don't think so.

    It's quite clear that the NRA is NOT to blame for this, the person doing the shooting is.
    but when the goal is to blame the NRA and not the shooter what do you expect?

    the anti NRA types aren't about public safety-they are about getting rid of groups and voters who vote against their interests



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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Look, Adams mother clearly felt guns were important. Everything I have heard about her says she would have supported the NRA and it's causes. Adam would have been pitched NRA membership at the course and even at home. Do you really think they weren't members of the NRA? It is extremely likely that they were members and did support the NRA as both of them would have enjoyed the use of guns. I am not trying to claim that the membership was bad, just that they would have been extremely likely to have been members of the NRA. There is a tiny possibility that for some reason they did not give support to the US's biggest pro-gun organization, but it would have fit her views perfectly. About the best I could see with Adam was he was too autistic to be social enough to have joined the group, but even that stretches thin when you realize he was alre4ady pulled out of his shell enough to participate in some aspect.

    I will say it again for the cheap seats. I don't think his membership in the NRA is a problem, nor am I bothered at all the NRA allowed him to be a member. hell, i would even agree that the media's inclusion of that fact is redundant and meant to demonize the NRA for a inconsequential reason. There were probably far more interesting things found there that would have been better to mention than something we already knew he did. We know he went shooting at legitimate ranges. We know he received training in using his weapon. I am pretty sure anyone with a brain could figure out the NRA was somehow associated with that activity given their participation in the gun community and the support they have from the gun community. I don't even really blame the NRA for trying to deny something we all pretty much know was the case. Still there is no reasonable reason for them to have ever denied adam or his mother membership. I don't even think it is terribly reasonable to think that the two of them would not have sought membership in the NRA given their affinity for guns.
    so what is the purpose of your silly rant? Many of the people who have engaged in mass shootings have no training other than VIDEO GAMES. The guy on the texas tower was a marine.

    the fact is-the NRA votes for candidates you don't like and thus you whine about the NRA



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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    but when the goal is to blame the NRA and not the shooter what do you expect?

    the anti NRA types aren't about public safety-they are about getting rid of groups and voters who vote against their interests
    This is one of those things that I cannot stand from the far-left. A gun is a tool. If the NRA was handing out pamphlets that show people getting drunk, high, metnally unstable and firing weapons, MAYBE they would have a case. But the NRA is not about that, they are about responsible gun use.

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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    This is one of those things that I cannot stand from the far-left. A gun is a tool. If the NRA was handing out pamphlets that show people getting drunk, high, metnally unstable and firing weapons, MAYBE they would have a case. But the NRA is not about that, they are about responsible gun use.
    and that was their main focus until the Democratic party decided to attack gun rights in the 1960s as a way of defending against Nixon and other GOPs "Southern Strategy" that claimed the dems were soft on mainly black street crime



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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    What do you expect the NRA to do? They were founded to increase marksmanship for the masses. Create a better federal army. It is a private organization. Do you plan to legislate how they should practice? Background checks for safety courses?
    They were founded to promote civilian marksmanship- 'for the masses' seems quite the commie term- they have of late devoted far more resources to inside the beltway politics.... that is a shame.

    Why do the right wingers always fall back to 'legislate' as the only other solution?

    The school I worked for was under no mandate to back round check it's students. It just seems, and here is a word the Right loves to throw around, it just seems the RESPONSIBLE thing to do. It isn't fire safety, or a cooking class, it is a group of people bringing firearms onto a range to attend a SHOOTING course. downplay it all you want, it still is teaching unchecked people how to shoot, even if at an extremely low skill level.

    But again the issue i see isn't some cattle call class teaching Lanza to basics, it doesn't take much of an instructor to do that, it is the NRA not keeping good records or worse, turning a blind eye to their records on who they have had contact with. Sounds more like lawyer CYOA document shredding so the the talking heads can attempt to deny.

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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    They were founded to promote civilian marksmanship- 'for the masses' seems quite the commie term- they have of late devoted far more resources to inside the beltway politics.... that is a shame.

    Why do the right wingers always fall back to 'legislate' as the only other solution?

    The school I worked for was under no mandate to back round check it's students. It just seems, and here is a word the Right loves to throw around, it just seems the RESPONSIBLE thing to do. It isn't fire safety, or a cooking class, it is a group of people bringing firearms onto a range to attend a SHOOTING course. downplay it all you want, it still is teaching unchecked people how to shoot, even if at an extremely low skill level.

    But again the issue i see isn't some cattle call class teaching Lanza to basics, it doesn't take much of an instructor to do that, it is the NRA not keeping good records or worse, turning a blind eye to their records on who they have had contact with. Sounds more like lawyer CYOA document shredding so the the talking heads can attempt to deny.
    what silly idiocy. The NRA has to keep records for a CCW permit class so the sheriff can check the training records. Typical leftwing nonsense-trying to divert blame for where it belongs-on the turd who did the shooting



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    Re: NRA Certificate and “Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting” Found in Adam Lanza’

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what silly idiocy. The NRA has to keep records for a CCW permit class so the sheriff can check the training records. Typical leftwing nonsense-trying to divert blame for where it belongs-on the turd who did the shooting
    Typical lawyer deflection. In Oklahoma CCW permit training records are required, not voluntary. A whole different can of worms is CCW, we are talking about cattle call photo- op 'classes' not keeping records of who they teach. Not having any sort of backround check, any felon can show up with a handgun and receive training. Seems the NRA has more concern about lobbyists than simple backround checks in more places than gunshows...

    The issue isn't just the turd who did the shooting, but the turds who tried to deny thrice before the cock crowed. Well in this case until the evidence was made public.

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